OTC: Kietzman Cries Foul As King Carl & Pioli Stiff Arm His Advances / Kim English Says MU Not Tough

“Carl baited me and I took the bait.”
Kevin Kietzman, after hearing Carl Peterson tell Soren Petro he would agree to an interview with Petro but not his “radio station itself,” 810 AM
GH: I don’t know if King Carl was really baiting KK or simply stating the obvious – he wanted to talk to only Petro because Petro has always treated Carl like a King.

“You don’t forget when someone tries to get you fired. You don’t forget that! … Shouldn’t [Peterson] been doing something different than worrying about me on a Tuesday afternoon?”
Kevin Kietzman, reminding us again for the nth time that Carl Peterson once called his boss at Fox 4 and complained about KK, 810 AM
GH: Not only will KK not forget this – he wants to make sure his listeners never forget as well.

“I don’t hold any grudges. I’d love to have him on.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: This is why Kietzman doesn’t inspire me. He is very good at his craft but he too often is a phony as Scott Pioli when it comes to what he really thinks. Of course he holds a grudge against Peterson. But instead of laying down a scorched-earth path of verbal bile, KK tries to do a soft-shoe routine around the truth. When Kietzman went after Nebraska football and its fans a couple of years ago, it was one of the rare times I heard the real Kevin Kietzman speak his mind. He did some of the same when Mizzou made it known they were bolting for the SEC. But those were rare breath moments that he quickly moves beyond and covers up with fake professional fluff.

“[Scott Pioli] told Chad [Boeger he wouldn’t come on 810 with me] because he thought our attacks on him were personal in nature. And I am flabbergasted by this! People who fail in their jobs and get fired are going to find something in their own mind that works for them as a reason why they didn’t succeed. I believe where we are with Scott Pioli right now is he’s in denial! He believes the media railroaded him in this town and he lost his job. This station has never been personal about Scott Pioli. Not one person!”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: I don’t know why Kietzman is “flabbergasted” that Pioli perceives any criticism as “personal.” I have some experience with criticizing the media for their work from time to time in a public forum. Some understand my words are simply my opinion. Some think I am Satan with a personal vendetta for them and their job. Kevin Kietzman isn’t as different from Scott Pioli and Carl Peterson as he might like to think. Or maybe I’m wrong. I’ll let you know when I hear from KK and he has me in studio for an on-air live interview.

“Missouri poorly prepared AGAIN to play on the road. No excuses. It’s clearly on Frank Haith and his coaches. Never led worst team in SEC.”
Jack Harry, @JackHarrytKSHB, Twitter
GH: Mad Jack is pointing his finger at Frank Haith for the Tigers disappointing play on the SEC road. Kim English, who has some inside knowledge of the Tiger basketball program, has a very different opinion of who should shoulder the blame. Read on.

“There’s definitely been a lack of toughness from our [Missouri] players this season. I feel for the coach. I know how hard he works every week to get those guys ready. On game day you’ve got to look in the mirror as a player. Those guys got to answer the bell. I still think they can right this ship but they’ve got to be tougher and guard. It’s tough to watch. I hope they get it together.”
Kim English, current Detroit Piston and former MU baller who played for Frank Haith his senior year, 810 AM
GH: Somebody on the MU team should post English’s frank comments on the locker room mirrors. This isn’t some drunk on the TigerBoard calling out these young men. This is a former teammate.

“It was expensive. He sent me a picture of the ticket.”
Kim English, on the Super Bowl ticket he purchased for his dad so that he could watch their hometown Baltimore Ravens play in New Orleans, 810 AM

“Absolutely not.”
Kim English, when asked by Steven St. John if it would be difficult to root against former Mizzou football players, Justin and Alden Smith, who happen to play for San Francisco, 810 AM

“Sometimes people reach their peak at backup.”
Bob Fescoe, to callers who were promoting the former MU quarterback, Chase Daniel, as a possible target for the Chiefs’ quarterback solution, 610 AM
GH: I wonder if Fescoe knows what the word ironic means?

“In my top 30, I think 19 of them are Niners. That’s a testament to how strong their roster is.”
Matt Williamson, on his ranking of all 106 players in SB47, 810 AM
GH: Williamson ranks Ray Lewis 32nd. No word on whether that was pre or post deer antler spray. Knowing now that Ray likes a little antler in his nostrils kind of gives that turf-pawing dance of his new meaning.

“Just got to hotel & some hooker was wandering my floor looking for her ‘friend’s room.’ My advice to her friend? Refund! Oy, she was hideous.”
Jay Glazer, @JayGlazer, tweeting from the Super Bowl in New Orleans, Twitter
GH: Is Jay related to Craig?

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19 Responses to OTC: Kietzman Cries Foul As King Carl & Pioli Stiff Arm His Advances / Kim English Says MU Not Tough

  1. Gavin says:

    Come on you guys, it’s totally personal to attack Pioli’s record as GM of the Chiefs. When he says that he’d draft Tyson Jackson all over again, even knowing what he knows now, and the guys at 810 ridicule that, they are making a completely ad hominem attack. It’s one step over from making fun of his family. That type of thing has no place in Scott Pioli’s universe. If you want to have an actual football discussion, one where you compliment his acumen, understanding of the game and the fact that he understands the need for the RIGHT 53, well, he will absolutely be happy to do your media. But this mocking and personal attack stuff where you hold him accountable for his professional record is bush league and I for one do not blame him for avoiding it.

  2. The Smartman says:

    Jay Glazer’s hideous would be Craig Glazer’s hottie! Girls gotta do what a girls gotta do. Never know when you might get the Dan Marino “Baby Mama” package.

    If anything KK should take pride in the fact that he helped run Carl and Scott out of town. If he played his cards the right way that should merit some grudging respect from the newbies who might want to befriend him to dull his sword down the road. Not sure why he cares since 90% of the people in this town wouldn’t piss on either of them if they were on fire.

    Nice that Kim English has coaches back but bottom line is that Frank ain’t gettin’ it done. It’s clear that his tiggers don’t respect him. Wonder why?

    Kim buying his dad a Superbowl ticket is like me buying my dad lunch. Nice touch Kim but expensive is still a subjective word.

    Ravens 30 49′ers 28. I’m tivoing the game so I can skip all the commercials and halftime crap. Will watch the pre game to see Dan Marino sweat. Seems even after he retired he stayed in the pocket too long and had a quick release.

  3. AaronB4Mizzou says:

    Ok, I doubt Daniel is the answer at QB, but he can’t be much worse than what the Chiefs went through last season with the QB play. He would have been an upgrade over those three.

  4. Bill says:

    49ers 31, Ravens 20. Ray Ray’s magic runs out and he cries all the way to retirement.

  5. Joe Blow says:

    How is criticizing a specific person ever not personal? Even if you’re talking about their professional work, it’s still criticizing that person. Which makes it personal. Their professional work is still a part of them..

    • Gavin says:

      I see your point, Joe, but I disagree a little. It’s personal if you attack the “person.”

      For example, calling Pioli a “bald fuck” would be a personal attack because it’s attacking his personal qualities and has nothing to do with his work. On the other hand, saying “Scott Pioli made a bad choice when he selected Tyson Jackson with the third pick of the draft” isn’t personal. It’s professional. It doesn’t have anything to do with an immutable characteristic about him or something to do with a personal quality that isn’t related to his professional abilities.

      • Joe Blow says:

        I understand the difference, but it’s still personal, though. It’s basically saying, “That aspect of that person is really shitty.” Even if it’s in a professional sense. People use the “it’s not personal, it’s professional” excuse all the time to be an asshole and attack somebody. You’re still attacking that person.

        • Snake Plissken says:

          He needs to get the hell out of the business then…because that is part of the deal. Pioli is a pussy.

          • Gavin says:

            Exactly. I still don’t agree that it’s a personal attack, it’s a professional one. It’s got nothing to do with his “personality.” But even if it is, criticizing that shit is completely fair game.

  6. donkeypunch says:

    GH sed:
    I’ll let you know when I hear from KK and he has me in studio for an on-air live interview.

    Donkeypunch sez:
    I remember when Niche Whitlock brought you in studio a year or so ago. Utter disaster, and that’s putting it kindly. I’m sure KK would bring you in assuming you pay some sort of advertising fee or allowed KK to pimp a product. How about a nice crank product?

  7. JP says:

    Let’s face it, KK is cut from the same cloth as CP and Pioli. They are one and the same, but in different occupations. We know how KK is about scrutiny (ask the Mission Hills Police). Hearing him blather about CP and now Pioli is somewhat entertaining radio, but I always hear the word HYPOCRITE whenever either man comes up on KK’s show.

    If you took out criticism of how a team is functioning, any sports station would only have 10 minutes of broadcast time out of 24 hours. It is the nature of sports radio. It is what makes Pioli and CP famous and rich. For them to take criticism personally is hypocritical and phony. They make the money they do because of the fans and the fan interest. Nobody ever criticized the KC Explorers GM (former Tennis team in town who is moving to Texas) because nobody cared about Team Tennis. Man up guys, you are rich because of the fans. Justify your moves,

    As for the Super Bowl, I like a defensive game in the first half with the 49ers pulling away 30-17 winning comfortably in the end. Too much speed and defense and this 49er team could be the next dynasty, considering how young their team is.

  8. Java Man says:

    Old school Greg today. Love it.

  9. Old Man Kissel says:

    It’s Friday. I guess that means the KK haters are out. Whatever. let me look at the ratings book. Yep KK still has the No. 1, sports talk show in the area 13 years running.

    810 scoops 610 once again…

  10. The Word says:

    I remember that interview. Greg got his butt handed to him. And that’s being nice. It was disapointing that Greg couldn’t go toe to toe with Hack Wright, even after Wrigth got beat up badly by Whitlock and Tony from Tony’s Kansas City.

    • Joe Blow says:

      I don’t think Nick Wright could hand it to himself. He’d start listening to his own grating voice and run out of the room..

  11. Joe Blow says:

    It’s definitely part of a high profile public job, so you have to expect it.

    That being said, the attacks are still against you personally, so you’re under no obligation to answer or talk to the people that are being total assholes to/about you..

  12. KCMonarch says:

    The definition of irony is any NBA player saying “…they’ve got to be tougher and guard.”

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