OTC: K-State’s Stats Threaten CFB History / TRob Gets First NBA K.O.

“The numbers are sick, sick, sick. Bill Snyder addressed them with his team earlier this week. But even the legendary Kansas State head coach admitted that he had never heard of such a thing ‘because I don’t think anybody’s ever kept a statistic like that.’ But it’s right there on paper. And on the field each Saturday, it looks just as gaudy.”
D. Scott Fritchen, writer, on Kansas State outscoring their opposition 111-0 on turnovers this season, PowerCatIllustrated.com
GH: Kansas State is on pace to commit the fewest turnovers in the history of college football. They have yet to commit a turnover in Big 12 play – and it’s November 9th! While this is an amazing statistic – almost unbelievable considering the changes to the modern game of football – it is misleading as to the strength of this Bill Snyder team. This Wildcat team is not dependent on time of possession, limiting turnovers and being lucky. That was last year’s K-State. This KSU club just pounds the living bejesus out of their opponents – and does all those other SnyderCat things just because they can.

“There is another gear to this K-State offense that we haven’t seen yet.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Another gear? What is KK expecting out of the Cats? They are averaging 44 points a game after nine games! They haven’t turned the ball over since Snyder wore bellbottoms. Some fans just don’t get it – and find it hard to enjoy the gifts they have been given. KK strikes me as one of those fans.

“I think Collin Klein’s going to play Saturday. But as I’ve joked all week long, Collin Klein could have had a leg amputated and Bill Snyder would have kept it a secret.”
Tim Fitzgerald, of PowerCat.com, 810 AM
GH: Klein is playing at TCU. If there is one thing that Bill Snyder has shown the past two seasons is that he is not all that concerned about protecting Klein’s health. If there is a more battered player in college football than Klein the past two seasons, he is likely in traction.

“What a hideous message, though. This guy [Bryce Brown] didn’t do anything right in college football and here he is trotting around in the National Football League [with the Philadelphia Eagles].”
Danny Clinkscale, on the former K-State running back, 810 AM
GH: Brown’s story at Kansas State has never been completely told. He injured an ankle in his first game and then after rumors that he had fallen out of favor with Bill Snyder, he left the team. Snyder did allow him to participate in K-State’s pro day for the NFL scouts. I think Bryce can chalk that friendly gesture to Snyder wanting to keep his big brother Arthur happy.

“I think if Alabama were to play Kansas State, Alabama would beat them by four touchdowns.”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM

“Alabama is beatable. Last year’s Alabama team would beat this year’s team. This team is not as good as they were a year ago.
Paul Myerberg, USA Today college football writer, 610 AM

@TomLuginbill on potential BCSNC, ‘If Oregon keeps winning, computers will inch them up. KSt needs Tx to finish strong, NDame has huge problems.”
Paul Finebaum, @finebaum, Twitter

“I still think K-State’s going to get hosed and that’s too bad.”
Jack Harry, 810 AM

“There are just too many places nationwide where this [BCS title sports coverage] just doesn’t matter. We’ve got to get this more open to a real playoff with more teams.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Amen, Kietz. Waiting until 2014 to implement a college football playoff is ridiculous – and limiting the playoff to a final four is even more insane. How crazy would it be for the NCAA basketball tourney to reduce the 64/65-team field to some computers picking the final four teams? We need at least 12 teams in a playoff and I would feel better about a 24-team field. It. Would. Be. FANTASTIC!

“Tim Grunhard will never – NEVER – be the offensive line coach that Charlie Dickey is at Kansas State. They think they have five NFL offensive linemen there.”
Kevin Kietzman, to a caller asking about Grunhard’s prowess as an offensive line coach, 810 AM
GH: Dickey deserves all the credit that Kietzman is giving him for the job he’s done in Manhattan. But does anyone else hear some snarkiness out of KK whenever Grunhard’s name is brought up? Sounds like there is still some lingering bitterness there on KK’s part from the Maas Exodus.

“We won’t be defined by hate.”
Chancellor Dan Jones, after the altercations between Ole Miss students Tuesday night following Barrack Obama’s re-election, TheAdvertiser.com
GH: I just watched Wright Thompson’s 30 for 30 documentary on ESPN titled, “Ghosts of Old Miss” the night of the election. The doc retold how the campus and state of Mississippi was torn by the forced enrollment of the school’s first black student. It appears from the video of white Ole Miss students burning Obama campaign signs on campus, that those ghosts are still very real – and scary.

“Dear runners and walkers, due to a lack of entries, the Negro League Baseball Museum has decided to cancel the Run.  If you have already signed up and are inquiring about a refund, please contact me, Bob Kendrick at bkendrick@nlbm.com. I apologize for any inconvenience.”
Bob Kendrick, Negro League Baseball Museum
GH: The Negro Baseball Museum has to be one of the most beloved yet worst run organizations in America. How do you screw up a fun run to honor Buck O’Neil? This entire organization should be gutted before it decays as much at the neighborhood where it is located.

“[Thomas] Robinson’s vicious, intentional back elbow caught [Jonas] Jerebko right in the throat, dropping the 25-year-old Swede to the deck like a sack of potatoes and earning him a flagrant-2. That higher grade of flagrant foul carries with it an immediate ejection from the game, which the Kings held on to win, 105-103, at Sleep Train Arena. That marks the first ejection of the new NBA season; congratulations to the 21-year-old forward for the auspicious honor. Robinson had three points, seven rebounds, one steal, one block and three turnovers in 12 minutes of action before getting the gate…”
Dan Devine, writer, YahooSports.com
GH: You can view the video of Robinson’s not-so-covert elbow by clicking here. The Piston’s colors make it look like TRob has gone rogue on his former KU club.  

“This song makes me want to make love to these Cheez-Its.”
Jay Binkley, as The Big Show returned from break to something that sounded like a Barry White tune, 610 AM

“Well, they do have that little tint hole in the middle.”
Josh Vernier, responding to Binkley’s love call, 610 AM

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52 Responses to OTC: K-State’s Stats Threaten CFB History / TRob Gets First NBA K.O.

  1. The Word says:

    It appears from the video of white Ole Miss students burning Obama campaign signs on campus, that those ghosts are still very real – and scary.

    I don’t buy it. Made up media story to me.

    Lets find white southeners who are upset that Obama won and call them raceist. I guess is their mad because they waisted four years in college, getting thousands in debt and no hope of a good job when they finish school.

    • Greg says:

      Glad you used your “four years” of college well. (Raceist) is racist…(Waisted) is wasted.

      College graduate unemployment is about 3.8% right now.

      Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

    • The Smartman says:

      Bullshit! with the racist stuff. I am sick and fucking tired of being called a racist, or anyone being called a racist, simply for disagreeing with, or voicing their displeasure with Komrade Obama. I’m sure some N-Bombs were dropped but that didn’t reflect the attitude, intent, or purpose of the demonstration. I deal with far worse walking among the “community” on the Plaza talking about what they wanna do to my wife. Too bad the little homies can’t afford the upkeep.

      If blacks wanna really be equal with whites then learn to take and handle criticism, constructive or otherwise, with the necessary aplomb, dignity and response. Stop hiding behind weak ideas and failed policies with, “you’re a racist”. And as for the N word, if that cunt BEYONCE can substitute Mitches for bitches then I’ll drop the N word with the frequency of Dave Chappelle on fast forward.

      Give me a better word to describe a lowlife thug that cheapshots a bus driver upside the head for no reason or rapes an 80 year old woman……an EIGHTY YEAR OLD WOMAN?

      The USA today is not the USA that Martin Luther King had a dream about.

      • Gavin says:

        Honestly, I don’t think Martin Luther King ever considered that there’d be a “national” newspaper widely distributed at hotels around he country.

        And, Sorry, Smartman, but use of the N-word most certainly DOES reflect “attitude, intent and purpose.” You may have a point about being able to “take” that word (although I don’t think you do), but no one uses that word unless they’re motivated by racism. And I’m not going to get into the ridiculous business about “if it’s so racist, why do black people use it with impunity” because stupidity, that’s why. It’s a racist word and when used an an epithet by crackers against black people it’s used with racist intent.

      • rkcal says:

        Yes, thanks for using that “necessary aplomb, dignity and response” that you demand of others.

        • The Smartman says:

          I don’t demand anything of others. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna live my life on a one way street with regard to any kind of discourse and bullshit racial sensitivities and sensibilities that are nothing more than an intended obfuscation of the truth.

          Over 10,000 tweets were registered that called for rioting and death to Mitt Romney, whitey, et. al if he won the election. Not ONE arrest. If it were the other way around we’d still be under Martial Law.

          Slavery sucked but as a good black friend of mine says….ain’t a lot of brothers in Africa making five million dollars a year to play a game.

          • Gavin says:

            I wonder if all those people who were kidnapped and forced to live, literally, in their own shit for months in cramped cells in ships before being sold off as chattel ever thought to themselves “this is going to be awesome when one day some distant relative of mine will get to make a shit ton of money taking advantage of all the great opportunities this new country presents! I mean, only one out of every ten million or so of people who look like me will ever make any actual wealth, but it’s gonna be sweet one day.”?

            Oh, and Smartman, using racism as an excuse for racism doesn’t actually EXCUSE racism, if you know what I mean. It just points out that black people can be racist too. It doesn’t mean that use of the N-word is okay although your defense of it does say a thing or two about you. You want the freedom to say “nigger,” go ahead and say it. But why hide behind an anonymous forum on what Deadspin calls a “low-level” blog. Why not announce your name and say “I’m Douglas Toady and I don’t think that people who scream ‘nigger’ at a riot protesting the election of a black man as President are racist!”? I mean, that *is* what you said, right?

          • The Smartman says:

            I dunno Gavin, maybe ask some of the people in Africa who live in mud huts, wading in their own shit what they think about that. Ask em what it’s like living in a society run by coked up War Lords who kill, maim, rape and brutalize with UN Sanctioned impunity.

            Every ethnic culture and subculture has had their moments of persecution and prosecution. Romans, Persians, Christians, Staten Islanders, Witches, Warlocks, Vampires, Irish, Serbs, Jews, etc. Life ain’t fair. Me, I’m a shape shifter. I can turn into a real ugly asshole at a moments notice. There but for the Grace of God go all of us.

            The world is full of idiots and morons. To take the Ole Miss event and turn it into something it wasn’t is just commie lib bullshit. No crosses were burned, nobody was lynched. A couple of idiots dropped n-bombs.

            Racism of all sorts exists. I deal with it every day in a dozen shapes and forms. It’s like acne. Sometime it clears up on its’ own, sometimes you gotta take a hot needle and make some blood splatter.

            Words don’t mean shit unless you want them to. Hence the phrase, actions speak louder than words. I judge people by what they do, not by what they say. I suspect the boys at Ole Miss were preemptively doing the same.

          • Gavin says:

            “Word don’t mean shit unless you want them to.” Agreed. I’m pretty sure that people running around rioting while screaming the word “nigger” because of the election of a black man probably wanted their words to mean something.

            This is not a referendum on humanity, Smartman, We all know that humanity is fucked up and has been. This is about a very specific event with very specific and freighted language being used with a very specific intent. Live up to your self-given nickname and quit defending the indefensible.

          • Will says:

            But did you see the ESPN 30-30 last night? Look how fast they’re spending it. Bart Scott, middle linebacker for NY JETs, cashed his first paycheck (several thousand dollars) at a payday loan outfit and they told him to his face they couldn’t believe he was cashing it there. That’s just one in a long list of idiotic things a lot of pros are wasting their money on.

      • chuck says:

        I see we are again handing out “Racist” scarlet letters again in response (Quelle horreur!!!) of harsh language on the campus of Ole Miss.

        “Your a racist!! No YOUR a racist!!!”

        Lets all to a metaphysically, granular and cellular level define what the definition of racist is. Nothing will make Louis Farrakhan, The Black Congressional Caucus, The Black Panthers, Hollywood, the 4th Estate and every boot licking pusillanimous patron of the “Protected Class” happier.

        Lets just dive into a pool of American self loathing, angst ridden, white guilt, prop our fuckin eyeballs open with A Clockwork Orange toothpicks and watch The fuckin Color Purple, Roots and Amistad until we fuckin bleed to death out of our fuckin eyes.

        Let me tell ya whats fuckin racist.

        African Americans voted 97% for Obama.

        Black on white hate crimes are NOT prosecuted by our Attorney general.

        http://araceagainsttime.blogspot.com/2009/06/attorney-general-holder-whites-not.html

        Black on white crime, NOT harsh language, crime, like rape, murder and assault is LEGION througout the nation.

        (Don’t push me, I will post the hundreds of URLs)

        Here are some stats for ya.

        The Dept of Justice informs us that 52 percent of homicides are committed by blacks. That is, nearly half of all homicides are committed by the 2.5 percent America’s population that are black males, aged 18 to 49.

        Consider …

        There were 14,748 homicides in the USA in 2010.

        About half of those, 7,374 we committed by black males, aged 18 to 49.

        About half of their victims, 3,687, were White.

        Blacks murder about 10 White people every day in the USA.

        Perspective: 3,810 Whites have been murdered by blacks in South Africa in the past 17 years.

        Perspective: There were 3,446 blacks lynched in the USA between 1882-1968 (86 years!). Most victims were guilty of violent crimes such as rape and murder.

        (Note: The number of homicides in 2010 was the lowest in decades.
        See here: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

        (Note: Lynching stats – http://goo.gl/8zM1K

        Stick that harsh fuckin language up where the sun don’t shine.

      • chuck says:

        I see we are again handing out “Racist” scarlet letters again in response (Quelle horreur!!!) of harsh language on the campus of Ole Miss.

        “Your a racist!! No YOUR a racist!!!”

        Lets all to a metaphysically, granular and cellular level define what the definition of racist is. Nothing will make Louis Farrakhan, The Black Congressional Caucus, The Black Panthers, Hollywood, the 4th Estate and every boot licking pusillanimous patron of the “Protected Class” happier.

        Lets just dive into a pool of American self loathing, angst ridden, white guilt, prop our fuckin eyeballs open with A Clockwork Orange toothpicks and watch The fuckin Color Purple, Roots and Amistad until we fuckin bleed to death out of our fuckin eyes.

        Let me tell ya whats fuckin racist.

        African Americans voted 97% for Obama.

        Black on white hate crimes are NOT prosecuted by our Attorney general.

        http://araceagainsttime.blogspot.com/2009/06/attorney-general-holder-whites-not.html

        Black on white crime, NOT harsh language, crime, like rape, murder and assault is LEGION througout the nation.

        (Don’t push me, I will post the hundreds of URLs)

        Here are some stats for ya.

        The Dept of Justice informs us that 52 percent of homicides are committed by blacks. That is, nearly half of all homicides are committed by the 2.5 percent America’s population that are black males, aged 18 to 49.

        Consider …

        There were 14,748 homicides in the USA in 2010.

        About half of those, 7,374 we committed by black males, aged 18 to 49.

        About half of their victims, 3,687, were White.

        Blacks murder about 10 White people every day in the USA.

        Perspective: 3,810 Whites have been murdered by blacks in South Africa in the past 17 years.

        Perspective: There were 3,446 blacks lynched in the USA between 1882-1968 (86 years!). Most victims were guilty of violent crimes such as rape and murder.

        Stick that harsh fuckin language up where the sun don’t shine

        • Java Man says:

          I hope you’re happy, Greg.

        • Phaedrus says:

          Cant we all just get along?

          RIP Rodney

        • MrBrightsideKC says:

          I love the justification for lynching at the end. Classy touch.

          • chuck says:

            It is a statement of fact and not a justification and you know this.

            Mischaracterization of facts, accompanied by 2nd party ad hominem insults supports affectively, when seen for what they are, the premise.

          • MrBrightsideKC says:

            So are you saying that the murders in your statistics were all done to upstanding human beings?

            Murder is murder whether it’s done by white people or black people.

        • The Smartman says:

          Did You Know?

          “Between speaking fees, investments and income from presidential appointments, Frederick Douglass’ was able to mass $300,000 in savings–an equivalence of $25 million dollars today. We shouldn’t ENVY those earning $250,000 per year. We should EMULATE them. That’s how jobs are created.” ~ KCarl Smith, ConservativeMESSENGER

          African Americans originally came to America unwillingly, having been stolen and sold by Muslim slave-catchers in Africa to Dutch traders journeying to America in 1619.
          The Three-Fifths Clause dealt only with representation and not the worth of any individual.
          In 1857, a Democratically controlled Supreme Court delivered the Dred Scott decision, declaring that blacks were not persons or citizens but instead were property and therefore had no rights.
          The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.
          Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.
          Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.
          In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.
          George Wallace was a Democrat.
          Bull Connor was a Democrat.
          In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.
          In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.
          Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.
          Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills.
          Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. His father, Daddy King was a Republican.
          Though both the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were signed into law under Democrat President, Lyndon Johnson, it was the Republicans in Congress who made it possible in both cases – not to overlook the fact that the heart of both bills came from the work of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
          In the 108th Congress, when Republicans proposed a permanent extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, it was opposed by the Congressional Black Caucus (composed only of Democrats).
          Following the Civil War, Frederick Douglass received Presidential appointments from Republican Presidents Ulysses Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, and James A. Garfield. Democratic President Grover Cleveland removed Frederick Douglas from office but Republican President Benjamin Harrison reappointed him.
          Very few today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. Although slavery still had not been abolished in all the states, things definitely were moving in the right direction.
          By 1820, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson’ party (the Democratic Party) had become the majority party in Congress.
          In 1789, the Republican controlled Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance that prohibited slavery in a federal territory. In 1820, the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise and reversed that earlier policy, permitting slavery in almost half of the federal territories.
          In 1850, Democrats in Congress passed the “Fugitive Slave Law”. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or else pay huge fines.
          Because the “Fugitive Slave Law” allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery, this law was disastrous for blacks in the North; and as a consequence of the atrocious provisions of this Democratic law, some 20,000 blacks in the North left the United States and fled to Canada.
          The “Underground Railroad” reached the height of its activity during this period, helping thousands of slaves escape from slavery in the South all the way out of the United States and into Canada – simply to escape the reach of the Democrats’ Fugitive Slave Law.
          In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery: the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Even though Democrats in Congress had already expanded the federal territories in which slavery was permitted through their passage of the Missouri Compromise, they had retained a ban on slavery in the Kansas-Nebraska territory. But through the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Democrats repealed those earlier restrictions, thus allowing slavery to be introduced into parts of the new territory where it previously had been forbidden.
          Following the passage of these pro-slavery laws in Congress, in May of 1854, a number of the anti-slavery Democrats in Congress – along with some anti-slavery members from other political parties, including the Whigs, Free Soilers, and Emancipationists, formed a new political party to fight slavery and secure equal civil rights for black Americans. The name of that party? They called it the Republican Party because they wanted to return to the principles of freedom and equality first set forth in the governing documents of the Republic before pro-slavery members of Congress had perverted those original principles.
          One of the founders of the Republican was U.S. Senator Charles Sumner. In 1856, Sumner gave a two day long speech in the U.S. Senate against slavery. Following that speech, Democratic Representative Preston Brooks from South Carolina came from the House, across the Rotunda of the Capitol, and over to the Senate where he literally clubbed down Sumner on the floor of the Senate, knocked him unconscious, and beat him almost to death. According to the sources of that day, many Democrats thought that Sumner’s clubbing was deserved, and it even amused them. What happened to Democrat Preston Brooks following his vicious attack on Sumner? He was proclaimed a southern hero and easily re-elected to Congress.
          In 1856, the Republican Party entered its first Presidential election, running Republican John C. Fremont against Democrat James Buchanan. In that election, the Republican Party issued its first-ever Party platform. It was a short document with only nine planks in the platform, but significantly, six of the nine planks set forth bold declarations of equality and civil rights for African Americans based on the principles of the Declaration of Independence.
          In 1856, the Democratic platform took a position strongly defending slavery and warned: “All efforts of the abolitionists… are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences and all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people”.
          It is worth noting that for over a century and a half, Democrats often have taken a position that some human life is disposable – as they did in the Dred Scott decision. In that instance, a black individual was not a life, it was property; and an individual could do with his property as he wished. Today, Democrats have largely taken that same position on unborn human life – that an unborn human is disposable property to do with as one wishes.
          African Americans were the victims of this disposable property ideology a century and a half ago, and still are today. Consider: although 12 percent of the current population is African American, almost 35 percent of all abortions are performed on African Americans. In fact, over the last decade, for every 100 African American live births, there were 53 abortions of African American babies. Democrats have encouraged this; and although black Americans are solidly pro-life with almost two-thirds opposing abortion on demand, a number of recent votes in Congress reveals that Democrats hold exactly the opposite view, with some 80 percent of congressional Democrats being almost rabidly pro-abortion and consistently voting against protections for innocent unborn human life.

      • Super Dave says:

        + i Million

      • Joe Blow says:

        Nothing like our resident racist being tired of his shit being called “racist”…That surely proves we’ve come so far full circle that all race relations have been permanently solved..

        • Nice says:

          The Ole Miss protest was a fake media story that fit their template. White southerners who were angry that Obama got re-elected…they must be racist. I saw more vile garbage swung at Bush then I did in that Rebel protest. The only person who had a worst record in the last four years then Obama is Scott Egoli. Maybe Egoli will have four more years at his job as well.

          • Joe Blow says:

            You’re right, people against Bush were way more racist.

            Obama, “Egoli”, they’re all really terrible, right? Let’s bring politics into this sports blog..

  2. john doe says:

    Flex Robinson has always been trash, and it looks like it carried over to the NBA.

    Dirty piece of shit needs to get his ass kicked.

    • Will says:

      Prediction: Meta World Piece will set him on his ass soon. He’s gonna mess up and pick on the wrong guy.
      T-rob has the mentality of a 4th grade bully. Notice he picked a Swedish guy to elbow? What a puss.

      • BS says:

        As a KU fan, I agree that TRobb needs a reality check. I don’t think he is a bad guy, just has the temperament of a 7 year old. He will have a very short NBA career if he tries to make it as some sort of tough-guy enforcer.

        • Will says:

          He’ll never be an enforcer. Cried like a baby and pulled his jersey over his face every time ku lost a big game. Sure sign of no backbone. Kids got a lot of growing up to do; flexes e v e r y t i m e he dunks.

  3. Observer says:

    “There is another gear to this K-State offense that we haven’t seen yet.” – KK

    “Some fans just don’t get it – and find it hard to enjoy the gifts they have been given. KK strikes me as one of those fans.” – GH

    This quote from KK, taken together with all his drivel, paints a picture. If you look carefully at the picture, you’ll see a guy who sounds very much like the kind of fans he literally hates who live in the state just north of his beloved Manhattan. I’ll cut him some slack when the ‘Cats win five national championships. But until then, he needs to listen to himself because he sounds exactly the same. The very thing he hates about someone else, he is.

  4. kylerohde says:

    Greg, I don’t need to bring up all the drama that played out when Buck died and Kendrick wasn’t chosen to lead the organization, but I’d say Kendrick has done a pretty darn good job of getting the place back on track. Though I haven’t seen their operating numbers and if they’re not in the black the same year the ASG is in town, they’ve got a serious problem. They certainly have an even bigger challenge going forward, now that just about all the Negro Leagues players have left us.

    One problem with the run is that every friggin’ non-profit organization in town has either a golf classic or a 5K/other run to benefit them. If you like that sort of thing, I think there’s one somewhere in this town every weekend from March through November almost. Way, way over-saturated unfortunately.

    • Phaedrus says:

      The oversaturation of fun runs kind of makes the point. If all these other organizations are able to successfully promote and hold runs, then why can’t the NLBM? Those other organizations don’t have Buck O’Neill’s legacy, etc. to sell to runners.

      • kylerohde says:

        Good point. I can honestly say I never heard about it, and I work + play downtown, read the Star in print and online, follow lots of local people on Twitter, listen to local radio, etc.

        Fact that the length was only 2.2 miles might have hurt too – I know it’s Buck’s number but that’s even shorter than the already short 5K.

  5. Art haynes says:

    Agree on many cat fans not enjoying the ride. 2004 through 2008the taught most if us to appreciate special seasons. Also great to see cdot waving that sec banner like the abused golddigger Missourians he represents.

  6. MightyMo says:

    I think the best approach would be for MLB to buy up the NLHOF assets and make these items a part of a substantial and permanent display in Cooperstown.

    • kylerohde says:

      They have their own problems with declining attendance year over year too. Cooperstown ain’t easy to get to and that’s a big problem for them, I think.

    • The Smartman says:

      The NLHOF has always been a money pit. It hasn’t exactly been run by the best intentioned people either. The legacy of the Negro Leagues is an important part of sports history. It should be moved to Harlem where it will get more foot traffic, tourist traffic, media exposure and publicity, all which will help spread the message and build the brand.

  7. Jim says:

    LOL, still stinging over that 19-point comeback win last year in AFH?

    Will, throwing around the word puss when calling out TRob on a blog? Very manly. hahaha

  8. JFP says:

    What in the f— does Kevin Kietzman know about how to coach an offensive line?

  9. Super Dave says:

    Well I am a KU man no doubt about it. But as well I would have no issue with Bill Snyder winning a championship either. He has a lot of years as a coach, and I would think maybe thinking of retirement before long and a championship would be an awesome way to end his career.

  10. KYle says:

    Go through what he has in your life and see how any of you bitches turn out. Not cool what T-Rob did, but Jesus, give me an effing break. Thug? Yes, that’s the word you use on players who beat your teams ass every time thaey play them. And haven’t you heard? It’s racist.

  11. john doe says:

    He’s been throwing elbows and taunting opponents for years.
    white or black, thats a thug

  12. Todd says:

    The Negro League thing has been a joke from the start. Bob Feller once said there was not a player there who would have been in the major leagues (of course, he was forced to apologize for his remarks later). Now, as history is rewritten every black player was some sort of MVP who was screwed by not playing in the major leagues.
    If you tell the truth about these players, of course, you are now a racist. It is another example of rewriting history.

    • Phaedrus says:

      Didnt Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, and Jackie Robinson play in the Negro Leagues? Seems like they did ok in the majors.

    • Taxee says:

      Feller was never shy to speak his mind. And if he was right about the Negro League players, that just makes the argument about Babe Ruth stats being padded because he never had to face any black pitchers ridiculous. When he retired in 1935, the guy who was second to him in career homers (Lou Gehrig) was 336! behind him (714-378).

  13. Joe Blow says:

    Thomas Robinson better have his head on a swivel — maybe he should have went out for football instead. Nobody tolerates an unprovoked elbow out of the blue. It’s *REALLY* easy to dish out cheap shops in basketball — which KU players are well aware of — but in the NBA, it just as easy to send them back…

  14. Joe Blow says:

    You would think, after all these years, that the Negro Leagues museum would realize that they provide a really compelling story, and an exceptionally boring payoff. The Museum is crap — the local county museum has much more interesting stuff about your hometown than the Negro Leagues Museum does. They have a 10 minute video, and a bunch of placards on the wall. The big payoff is seeing replica uniforms. That’s why they’re going under — it’s completely underwhelming and really boring. It’s been like that from the beginning..

    • ted says:

      What’s funny is many of those replica uniforms and logos were created a few years ago by a white graphics guy to help the museum sell them to an ignorant public. They have no basis in reality. It was simply a money grab.

  15. Joe Blow says:

    Hey, look, this minor league thing lost in their playoff game. it weird that the Northern Arkansas Naturals — oops, the UMC Mules — oops, the T-Bones or something or other lost a stupid playoff at a stadium named for a fraud. But, but…they made the playoffs! They’re sad little niche thing should be the overwhelming sport in the KC area, obviously…we’re totally into niche sports played badly..

  16. goonzablazin says:

    Smartman needs his own blog. I might even read it.