OTC: National & Philly Media Talk Andy Reid / Packers’ John Dorsey Likely Chiefs GM

“I just wonder what Kansas City is doing. I wouldn’t give Andy Reid that much power that it appears they’re willing to give him. I got the feeling the last few years that Andy cannot evaluate talent very well. The first half of his tenure [in Philadelphia] was great. But when he took total control of that organization, that’s when things started going downhill for him.”
Mike Freeman, NFL columnist, CBS Sport Radio 102.5 FM
GH: No specifics have been made public as to just how much power Reid has been given by Clark Hunt. I too am of the belief that Reid will need a lot of help evaluating the draft and the Chiefs’ current roster. And from what Reid had to say in his first press conference, he will get it from his new GM.

“He’s the anti-Pioli, John Dorsey is.”
TJ Carpenter, on Dorsey’s and the Packers’ success in the NFL draft, 810 AM
GH: I would have hired a younger and more energetic head coach for the Chiefs. But I understand Clark Hunt’s unwillingness to gamble with a teetering franchise. That said, I really like the rumors that John Dorsey is headed our way. Read on.

“[Dorsey] is as warm and friendly and as open a guy as we in the media could meet. There’s no finer guy in professional football than John Dorsey. If the reports are true, it looks like Kansas City is going to be able to snag him.”
Kevin Harlan, a Green Bay native, who said he sat next to Dorsey during the Vikings/Packers playoff game on Saturday, 810 AM
GH: That is high praise from a guy who knows Dorsey well.

“I think Andy Reid’s going to be a terrific choice. I think this is a very good bond between these two from the get-go – and I don’t see it becoming divergent down the road.”
Kevin Harlan, on partnering Reid and Dorsey, 810 AM
GH: Harlan compared the chemistry between Reid and Dorsey as to the relationship that Carl Peterson and Marty Schottenheimer shared in their early years. That kind of success would be welcoming.

“They crucified Andy Reid [in Philadelphia]. They just tortured the guy! 14 years and he didn’t win a Super Bowl! He had six division titles. Five conference championship games and one Super Bowl. And these [Philadelphia] people are whining like babies! They cry about Andy Reid because he doesn’t throw players under the bus. They took it personally. You can’t judge a coach by [the fans’ reactions to him]. If you start listening to the fans, you’re going to be sitting with the fans! … If the Chiefs fans don’t like Scott Pioli, that’s not the win-all, be-all and end-all to whether Scott Pioli’s the general manager there.”
Howard Eskin, Philadelphia sportscaster, being interviewed by Danny Parkins and Carrington Harrison, 610 AM
GH: The fans do not appear to have been the problem with Andy Reid or Scott Pioli’s lack of success. They do make an easy excuse for suck-ups like Eskin, though. Eskin sees himself as a buddy to guys like Reid and Pioli – NFL insiders who can help him forward his career. The fans don’t do much for Eskin except make fun of his bouffant.

“You look over the 14 years of Andy Reid as a head coach and you can’t think of an Andy Reid quote. Think of that. I think it speaks volumes of him. He’s a man of few words and he gets players attention. He understands how to build a team.”
Bill Maas, 610 AM
GH: I’m not sure why not having a memorable quote in 14 years is a positive for an NFL coach. While we are all more interested in Reid’s won-loss record than his banquet stories, it would be nice to have somebody who has a touch of wit about him.

“That’s why I like following @BillMaas he sees things I don’t in football. And he can score me x.”
Lazlo, @lazlothebuzz, Twitter

“I don’t think Andy Reid should be given a pass in year one. I think the expectations should be pretty high.”
Jayice Pearson, 610 AM
GH: Coming off a 2-14 season, Reid will get a pass in his first year. It’s difficult to NOT win six games in the NFL. Seven wins for the Chiefs will be seen as improvement. Year two is when Reid will be expected to win the AFC West.

“People think we enjoyed covering Romeo Crennel and Scott Pioli because it generates more callers. It was excruciating! Every day I would walk out of here saying, ‘Oh crap, I’ve got to do this again tomorrow!’ ”
Josh Vernier, 610 AM
GH: Vernier may have chosen the wrong profession. How any sports talk host based in Kansas City the past nine months could be anything other than fascinated, thrilled, devastated and shocked with the Chiefs’ soap opera this season is stunningly revealing. This city’s sports scene continues to amaze me each week with its seemingly endless supply of captivating storylines.

“I’m a Shanahan fan. No, I’m not going to blame him.”
Kevin Harlan, when asked to comment on the Redskins’ coach decision to play RG3 Sunday against Seattle, despite his obvious knee injury, 810 AM
GH: Shanahan fan or not, he made a huge error in playing his franchise quarterback on a sandlot-like field. Shanahan deserves most all of the criticism that will be heaped on him for keeping RG3 in a game in which he was not physically able to defend himself.

“I don’t get the comps between the Strasburg & RGIII situations. Strasburg wasn’t playing hurt & didn’t appear compromised. RGIII is & does.”
Robert Ford, @raford3, on the Washington Nationals starter being intentionally shut down for the playoffs, Twitter
GH: The comparisons are obvious and worthy. Both players are studs on Washington pro teams who had been injured and their durability was questionable throughout the postseason. The Nats shut down Strasburg and the Skins played RG3 until his leg almost came unhinged. What’s not to get?

“I don’t think there is anything more boring than picking games. I don’t know why anybody would care who I think is going to win a game. My picks are moot. I just don’t find it that interesting.”
John Feinstein, morning host on CBS Sports Radio, 102.5 FM
GH: Feinstein must have listened in to Kevin Kietzman’s Friday afternoon Picks segment. Brutal radio that Between the Lines continues to subject its listeners to each Friday.

“One good thing about the Chiefs being horrible this season is I didn’t have to listen to Phil Sims often. The guy is brutal.”
Dan Loving, on Sims’ work during the playoffs, @danloving, Twitter
GH: That Phil Simms and Jim Nantz are CBS’ number-one NFL TV crew should give hope to every sports broadcast major in the land. Simms is bland, cocky and does it all in a sleep-inducing monotone. What’s not to hate?

“Just over 20 minutes until Kansas City men’s basketball tips off here in downtown Kansas City against North Dakota State.”
UMKC Athletics, @TheUMKCToos
GH: I have noticed a small battle emerging between the UMKC sports media and some of their alumni. The sports guys are using “Kansas City” to describe the Roos while many older alums bristle at dropping the UMKC moniker. I like the Kansas City change but I’m not finding many Roo alums who agree.

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22 Responses to OTC: National & Philly Media Talk Andy Reid / Packers’ John Dorsey Likely Chiefs GM

  1. Yael T. Abouhalkah says:

    I like this: The Summit League calls UMKC “Kansas City” in its official basketball standings and in other sports-related stories. http://www.thesummitleague.org/sports/mbkb/index

  2. hammy says:

    Herm Edwards was a coach who gave great quotes. Count me in for a coach that wins game, not comes up with witty quotes for the news.

  3. OlatheCat says:

    Give me Sims and Nantz over the dolts on Fox, Buck and Aikman. They’re the only announcers that I mute.

    • Will says:

      I’ve stopped being and nfl fan years ago. Probably a few years after free agency sucked the life out of the KC Chiefs. The non-stop commercials make live or tv football unbearable and the same ads are going to kill college football for me one day as well.

  4. Mike says:

    They need to drop the M in UMKC. And it should have occurred 10 or more years ago. The U of KC.
    A metro university that wouldn’t have any distinction of being a satellite-real or imagined-of a larger state campus would do wonders for it’s overall brand.
    Look no further than Wichita State. A metro university that has a ton of city and alumni pride, with it’s own distinct brand and identity. Do you think it would have had the same caché if it were named from some (real or imagined) offshoot of another university system?
    Drop the damned M already.

    • kcredsox says:

      I kind of like KCU myself, but since I’m not an alumni and don’t attend their games, I guess my opinion really doesn’t matter.

  5. JP says:

    I can’t remember a Monday where I didn’t hang on the opinions of Dan Loving. He knows what he’s talking about regarding sports. He knows what he’s talking about regarding announcers. Just one question: Who is Dan Loving? BTW, many believe that Simms is keeping Peyton Manning’s analyst seat warm for when the great one retires.

    Shanahan was playing for today, and may have risked long term damage to RG III’s knee. The lesson here is enjoy a running QB, because he’s not running for long. The NFL is a great equalizer regarding QB’s and that’s why Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre et al have played their careers mostly injury free, while the running QB’s (Vick, RG III) are an orthopedic surgeon’s dream with all the arthroscopies and wear and tear on the knees.

  6. I thought I heard them say that Howard Eskin used to do a show with Andy Reid. He doesn’t sound like an objective journalist. Kind of like Mitch Holthus interviewing Romeo.

    • kchoya says:

      My first memory of Howard Eskin was back in the early 90’s when he was on The George Michael Sports Machine that aired at 10:30 Sunday night in KC. Also, Google “Raymond Stumpf” for more “color” on Eskin.

  7. tigerdan4 says:

    I’m totally onboard with Andy Reid. Getting rid of Pioli was such a relief. The bad, cancerous apple was removed and now there’s a sense of pride & excitement & hope once again. Go Chiefs!

  8. MrOlathe says:

    “He’s the anti-Pioli, John Dorsey is.”
    TJ Carpenter, on Dorsey’s and the Packers’ success in the NFL draft, 810 AM

    When did Yoda get a local show? And the next interesting thing that comes out of John Feinstein’s mouth will be the first. That is one pompas prick!

  9. mike t. says:

    ha! yael and john landsberg commenting on the same page. love it. better than tony’s site in that respect! now’s all we needs is for orphan, chuck and superdave to chime. i’m just mike t. a troll.

  10. I love Kietzman’s picks segment. Especially when he picks things like “I can’t say for sure who’s going to win, but it’s going to be a blow out, either way,” or my all time favorite, “This game is going to be either really close or a blow out, not in between.” If only I could take those picks to Vegas.

  11. newbaum turk says:

    Greg (or anybody else for that matter) have you listened to the new FM sports channel yet? Wondering if anybody had any thoughts.

    • The Word says:

      Its ok, it will last two years here. Maybe have one, maybe two local shows then disaperer. I can see Z Man, Duke Frye or even Dave Stewart with the local show. I havent listend to all of the shows but only one I really liked was Scott Ferrell.

  12. The Smartman says:

    The Chiefs were a teetering franchise four years ago. Clark played it safe. The Chiefs will improve but Superbowl is not in the equation with Andy Reid.

    Mike Shanahan fucked up big time. RGIII will NEVER be the same. Might as well call him RGII cause he lost a gear.

    Bill Maas sees things in football other people don’t see. It’s called hallucinating Lazlo.

    University of Kansas City? Make it part of the KCMOSD and I’m in.

  13. Orphan of the Road says:

    Eskin carries the water for not only Andy but Pete Rose & Charles Barkley. Controversial? He asks players for autographs in the locker room while getting his stories.

    But he gave up his job as the station’s engineer to get into the talking-head gig. The difference in pay was probably $40,000-a-year (70s money).

    He’d make KK cry, MOMMY if they went toe-to-toe.

    Andy Reid in KC is like finding out that hot chick you had the messy breakup with is now living in the apartment next to yours. We had a 14-year-relationship and now he’s here stalking me.

    Might as well get used to Andy’s press conferences. They are all the same.

    He may panic, a little, when he sees that 610 SPORTS mike at the press conferences. Maybe I’ll wear my WIP 610 hat to one.


  14. John Phog says:

    not everyone is obsessed enough with the Chiefs or the NFL to find the Crennel/Pioli soap opera as fascinating as you do, Greg. A guy coming in here from a market where they have an NBA team might think we spend a little too much time talking about the Chiefs in this town. For me it’s beyond boring. It’s coma inducing.

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