OTC: Nervous Ned Yanks When He Should Be Spanked / Garth Song Sour At The K

“Chris Sale looks very hittable here in the first inning.”
Denny Matthews, as the Royals jumped to a 1-0 lead against the White Sox’s starter, Royals Radio
GH: Matthews made this comment during Billy Butler’s first at bat, the third hitter Sale had faced. At the time, it was true. But Sale then showed why he continues to haunt the Royals and the decision they made in the 2010 draft to pick Cal State Fullerton’s shortstop, Christian Colon, ahead of the Florida Gulf Coast lefty – who went 13th overall to the White Sox.

“Hindsight can be a very tricky thing, and (Ned) Yost defended the move that would leave a little tarnish on a successful homestand.”
Bob Dutton, Royals’ beat writer, on Yost’s decision to pull James Shields in the ninth despite his ace having held the Sox to two hits and no runs, Kansas City Star
GH: Hindsight isn’t tricky at all. It’s as much a part of baseball as popcorn, radio play-by-play and green grass. Yost blew this game and it cannot be screamed loud enough. Read on.

“When you make that change you subject yourself to a lot of criticism. And it didn’t work out. … I expected (Shields) to go out for the ninth inning. It was going to be the first shutouts in the same series going back to the year George Brett got his 3,000th hit.”
Jeff Montgomery, Royals’ all-time leader in saves, 810 AM

“I’ll say this; sitting in the opposing dugout when he does that you say, ‘God I’m glad he’s out of there. Let’s go get this guy.’ ”
George Brett, 610 AM

“In a one-run game, (if) you send (the starter out) out, he’s either going to win it or lose it. So you let the closer go out and try to do his job.”
Ned Yost, attempting to defend his decision to pull Shields in the ninth, Kansas City Star
GH: Yost sounds like a man drowning in his self-defense. Herm said the only thing a manager needs to remember as he sits on the bench watching men do what he cannot – “You play to win the game.” Yost played to make sure Shields didn’t get a loss tacked onto his record? What complete garbage. Yost deserves to be suspended by David Glass for the Baltimore series for this ridiculous statement alone.

“You don’t like losing games like we lost today, especially when you get a start like we got from James Shields. But it was a fair homestand.”
Ned Yost, Kansas City Star
GH: More evidence that Yost is managing to be good but not great. How does a competitor leave that loss and talk about a successful homestand?

“Everybody has got their job to do and Shields had done his.”
Ned Yost, 810 AM
GH: Yost doesn’t demand greatness. He appears satisfied with good job, good effort – and a loss.

“(Yost) must be the greatest manager ever because he never makes a mistake.”
@pickupyourmatt, Twitter
GH: I would respect Yost far more if he would have come out in the post-game presser and said, “I want to apologize to James Shields, the Royals organization and our fans – because I blew that game. Me. Now let’s go to Baltimore and picked my sorry ass up!”

“(Yost) thinks of that as a simple good explanation and it’s not. There was no downside to putting (Shields) back out there – and he was pitching lights out!”
Danny Clinkscale, 810 AM

“Ned Yost’s explanation today put player and statistics above team – and I don’t think coaches should do that.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM

“I find it interesting that everyone is blaming Ned Yost, Greg Holland and Chris Getz. … Did you see the scoreboard? They lost 2-1 in 11 innings – and you want to blame the pitching? What’s interesting to me is that no one is talking about the bats.”
TJ Carpenter, 810 AM
GH: Each game is its own story and has its own context. This game was all about sending Shields back to the mound for the ninth. Yes, more runs would have been nice but Yost had to make his decision on what was on the scoreboard. He chose wrong and his team paid for his poor decision.

“The (Royals’) offense has been the culprit for the lack of success so far this year.”
TJ Carpenter, 810 AM
GH: The Royals are 17-11. I’ll take that kind of “lack of success” as often as the bats can deliver it.

“Greg ‘Gasoline Can’ Holland.”
Caller to Kevin Kietzman’s BTL Show, 810 AM
GH: Before Monday’s appearance, Holland had gone nine innings without giving up a run and struck out 16 in those nine innings. I couldn’t believe Kietzman didn’t go Alex Gordon on this caller. Holland is simply a brilliant find by this organization and he will be a big reason why they are in a pennant race this summer. But he had just pitched Sunday. Why not save him so he is available for Baltimore? Yosted yet again.

“I’m not saying I agree with it. I’m saying the logic that Ned Yost used was sound.”
TJ Carpenter, 810 AM
GH: A caller named Tom called in to discuss Yost pulling Shields and he disagreed completely with TJ’s take on Yost’s logic being “sound.” Tom sounded knowledgeable and made his points clearly and with some passion. Instead of engaging in an entertaining debate with Tom, TJ acquiesced and said, “Tom, I understand where you’re coming from. I understand that frustration.” No, TJ. Seize the chance to grab your audience with a caller who has an opposite opinion than yours. It will make your postgame show far more listenable.

“There is a 100% chance of rain tonight in Baltimore.”
Gary Lezak, as the Royals are scheduled to start a three-game series tonight with John Renshaw’s O’s, 810 AM
GH: Soggy crab cakes and more rain delays. Yuck.

“Would/should the Royals add $5 million in payroll and trade a top prospect or two for two months of (Chase) Utley? You can bet the Phillies will be asking for Yordano Ventura, Kyle Zimmer or someone similar. I’m not sure they’d be willing to do that.”
Buster Olney, , on speculation the Royals might trade for the Phillies’ five-time All-Star second baseman, Chase Utley, ESPN.com
GH: The Royals do not make these kinds of moves – nor should they. Tempting? Sure. But nowhere near logical.

“I wouldn’t give up (Yordano) Ventura or Zimmer. In my opinion Ventura’s the best prospect in the organization.”
George Brett, on the Royals right-handed pitching prospect with a 100-mph fastball610 AM

“It’s ridiculous! You can’t make (Garth Brooks’ I Got Friends in Low Places) like Sweet Caroline! You can’t force that! It makes me mad! You don’t force tradition. You have to let it happen organically.”
Steven St. John, on the Royals playing Brooks’ song each game at The K for a seventh-inning sing-along, 810 AM
GH: This song gets more Royals’ fans fired up than a Ned Yost pitching change. Some love it. Some hate it. I think it has long overstayed its welcome at The K. But I think there is more here at work than a simple country song. Read on.

“I just feel like that makes us look like we’re hicks.”
Aaron Swarts, 810 AM
GH: Hey Swarts – we are hicks.

“(Garth) is our local celebrity because he came to the Royals training camp that one year.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: Garth is Wal-Mart’s celebrity. I think he has stayed at The K longer than any manager is because David Glass and Wal-Mart are corporate partners with the OSU country crooner.

Heidi Klum

“My wife has a serious woman-crush on Heidi Klum. If there ever was a chance for a ménage à trois in my life…there it is.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: I wouldn’t toss the former SI super model out of bed but I am hoping my wife’s woman-crush is on some glam gal who is south of 40…as in way south. As in Megan Fox south.

Megan Fox

“This is better than bicycling bears!”
Jaime Bluma, responding to Nate’s Heidi Klum comment, 810 AM
GH: You had to be there – but this was a GREAT line by the former closer.

“How about the Pine Riders?”
Rex Hudler, Royals TV analyst, when asked to suggest a name for 610’s afternoon drive show featuring Danny Parkins, Carrington Harrison and Jayice Pearson, 610 AM
GH: Talk about a great line!

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35 Responses to OTC: Nervous Ned Yanks When He Should Be Spanked / Garth Song Sour At The K

  1. BlackJack says:

    You can disagree all you want with Yost’s decision, but you are missing the point to say that he blew the game.

    Yost’s decision to yank Shields after 8 innings is completely irrelevant if the Royals coule SCORE SOME FREAKING RUNS, hello?

    You’re offense scores 1 run, you deserve to lose, period.

    • Bill says:

      TJ, is that you?

      I recall the Braves winning plenty of one-run games in the 90s while they were winning NL East after NL East and playing in the World Series.

    • Greg Hall says:

      BJ, The score was what the score was in the ninth, 1-0 Royals. Ned had that info to make his decision with and he failed. The fact the Royals were having trouble scoring made his decision to remove Shields even more wrong. They needed to close this game out in the ninth and not risk extra innings. The best way to do that in my opinion was to go with the guy whop had been doing it for eight innings, not the tired arm in the pen.

  2. Paul Johnson says:

    “Why not save him (Holland) so he is available for Baltimore? Yosted yet again.”

    Greg, that is double-speak compared to your argument above re: playing to win the game. You don’t “save” your closer for a future game (where you have no idea if a save situation will present itself, i.e. the Royals could be up big or down big in the 9th inning for all the Baltimore games) when today’s game is winnable.

    • Greg Hall says:

      PJ, I am not advocating “saving” a closer — you are correct, that is a gamble that may never pay off. I am advocating not using your closer who pitched the day before and who will now not be able to pitch on Tuesday. Go with Shields in the ninth — if he blows it, he blows it. But I’m betting on him winning it and then you have a rested Holland for Baltimore.

  3. GM says:

    I didn’t like Yost’s decision, but if Getz fields a ground ball cleanly, the Royals win anyway. If the offense isn’t abysmal, the Royals win anyway.

    JoePo thinks (and I do too) that Yost’s explanation is poorly worded. Instead of it being about who got the win or loss, it’s that the outcome can flip so quickly with a one run lead. He felt better handing it over to a closer who was ready to go, rather than risk having a two-run rally happen in a few pitches. I think (hope) that’s what he meant. That would be a reasonable interpretation of his explanation, though we could still argue about the decision.

    Here are JoePo’s thoughts on it: http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2013/05/hes-either-going-to-win-it-or-lose-it.html

    • Paul Johnson says:

      The problem with that thinking is that you already know what kind of stuff/command/control Shields has and yesterday it was pretty much unhittable and didn’t show any signs of dropping off. You don’t know what kind of stuff/command/control Holland is going to have when/if you bring him in.

  4. nick says:

    Greg, I’m with you 100%. Really bad decision by Yost.

    George Brett’s quote says all that needs to be said…Yost gave the Sox batters hope and confidence by taking out Shields.

    • Will says:

      Agree. Big Game struck out the side in the 7th. He only gets stronger as the game gets later. Why let the Sox out of the choke hold you have them in?

      Yost thinks Shields is worried about about earning a loss in the 9th? Laughable. Does he have any idea he’s sitting on Secretariat coming down the home stretch in the Belmont Stakes? Quit effing thinking about losing Yost!

  5. BlackJack says:

    “GH: I wouldn’t toss the former SI super model out of bed but I am hoping my wife’s woman-crush is on some glam gal who is south of 40…as in way south. As in Megan Fox south.”

    Winner-winner, chicken dinner

  6. OOOH! That says Riders not Raiders.Pine Riders!

    I blame the two photos from up above.

  7. The Smartman says:

    Not the first game Ned has lost. Not gonna be the last. Friends in low places is the perfect song for Ol Royals fans. My old man 3-way, Kate Winslett and Uma Thurman. My dirty old man 3-way, Miley Cyrus and Lindsay Lohan.

    • john doe says:

      Carla Gugino and Jennifer Aniston

      Young is Elisha Cuthbert and any of the Royals girls that stand on the dugout between innings and pass out t-shirts.

      Ned sucks.

  8. Steve says:

    I think what’s even more frustrating is just two nights earlier he let Guthrie finish a shutout but wouldn’t let Shields, our most accomplished and seasoned pitcher, do the same thing. I think Shields’ pitch count was 4 or 5 pitches higher at the time, but I think at the very least you have to let him start the inning and if things get rocky, pull him. That’s perfectly defensible.

    And while I agree Yost’s decision was brutal and the main talking point, the offense did have just 2 hits after the second inning. That’s not good, either.

  9. BlackJack says:

    “Yost gave the Sox batters hope and confidence by taking out Shields.”

    You mean he gave the Sox batter hope by putting in his lockdown closer, who has gone 9 straight outings without allowing an earned run? Isn’t that Holland’s primary job? (I know, I know, he failed in this regard, but Royals pitchers still only allowed 2 runs). Hey, the loss sucks. You can always find fault with something.

  10. brett says:

    i cant believe how easy the media went on ned in the post game presser. ned bullied nate bukaty. and bukaty sat there and took it.

    if i were in the room i’d have asked if ned sought any input from shields before deciding to pull him. your staff ace and clubhouse leader has earned the right to decide if he will go out for the ninth inning after pitching a 2-hit shutout. period.

    and i don’t believe for a second that shields would have taken himself out.

    • Will says:

      Nate’s biggest problem is the j school at ku didn’t teach him how to ask the type of questions he should be asking. He’s not that smart.

      The rest of your comments are spot on. JS deserved to take the hill and get his W.

      • Kyle Rohde says:

        No, Nate’s biggest problem is that he is employed by both of the teams he covers in his non-810 jobs (KU and the Royals). He has two kids and a wife and busts his butt year-round to make as much as he can to support them, and he’s not about to screw up either gig just to ask Yost a tough question. Plus, he’s got to see Yost after 80+ games and deal with him day after day.

        Those things definitely affect his 810 work, unfortunately, but I can’t begrudge him that. I’d do the same thing in his situation.

        • Will says:

          There is no sense in him asking any questions then. Who want’s to listen to some cooked up excuse that’s the result of a softball question?

          • Twy's Gibman says:

            thank you – the wife and kids argument shouldn’t be used to excuse someone pussing out

          • Kyle Rohde says:

            I get what you’re saying, but no team’s TV network guys can ask questions like a national or local reporter not tied to the team at all. You don’t hear Mitch Holthus hammering the Chiefs’ head coach’s decisions in one-on-one interviews either.

  11. Twy's Gibman says:

    GH: Yost sounds like a man drowning in his self-defense.
    Yep – did anybody catch the tone he took with Nate Bukaty? He jumped all over the little guy. Incredibly defensive look for yet another pitching situation challenged Royals manager. .

    • Tigerpiper says:

      He is a bully who never admits he’s wrong, and when he is wrong (or even questioned) belittles people in weaker positions than himself. And he loves the bunt. He is a moron. Old school bully moron.

  12. Mark says:

    Greg – Megan Fox’s mom grew up in Gladstone and is still a MU fan (although I don’t think she graduated a Tiger). A group of buddies and I met mom and dad fox at the MU game in Knoxville. Nice folks and dad held off for awhile before letting slip the identity of their daughter. Very proud papa.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I played softball at Happy Rock back in the early 90s. I do not remember that kind of talent frequenting North Oak at that time but I am very glad to hear it did. I rented the DVD, This is 40, over the weekend and Megan’s dad should be proud.

  13. JP says:

    I can’t disagree with the above posters about Ned’s brain cramp. He manages not to lose, and is satisfied with mediocrity. No wonder Milwaukee canned him during their playoff year in 2008. One other nugget, he goes to Holland, who gives up singles and walks. Where the hell is the pitching coach? I don’t recall the pitching coach going out one time to check on Holland. That game was important in that a victory really buries the White Sox, who are fading fast. “laying Not to Lose, the Ned Yost Guide to Managing” in bookstores nowhere.

    My fanasy 3 some would be Megan Fox (agree with Greg) along with Jaime Maggio. If you don’t know her, she is the sideline reporter for Fox Sports West.

  14. Stringer Pete says:

    Ned is nothing if not “by the book.” Unfortunately it is not the most current edition.

  15. Joe says:

    Yost can’t win on this one. If he leaves him in (and they lose), he gets crushed too. If Shields has arm problems later in the season, everyone recalls that game that Yost “left him in too long”. Hey, it’s May 7, and the Royals are relevant!!!

  16. KCPRGuy says:

    Long term, Royals will not be able to afford Shields, Santana, Guthrie. They need Ventura and Zimmer as cheap arms they can plug into rotation down the road. Now, you want to trade some bullpen arms for a rent-a-player? I’m good with that. Plenty of surplus.

    • geo says:

      Shields and, to a lesser degree, Santana are one thing. Guthrie is another entirely. The Royals already have him signed for this year and the next two after. By that time he will be entering his age 37 season and will not be in line for a big payday. In fact, he will very likely be getting his contracts a year at a time. The Royals are in bigger danger of Guthrie turning into a pumpkin before his current contract is up than of not being able to re-sign him when the time comes.

      And to interject my own opinion on the subject, if the Royals are desperate to re-sign Guthrie at that time, or despondent that they will be losing him, it will be because they are experiencing the same rotation problems we have seen over and over for the last two-plus decades. And by god, I hope they’re done with that.

  17. Uncle Dick says:

    I’ll pass on Heidi Klum, she smells like Seal.

    • The Smartman says:

      Brilliant! Just tried to fart and shit my pants. You kick ass Uncle Dick!

  18. BlackJack says:

    That’s fine … but if our way of thinking is that we need to manage every game this season as if it is the 7th game of the World Series, then be prepared for alot of disappointment, long term. They just cannot sustain winning games 2-1, 1-0, with their offense not contributing anything. Not a recipe for a playoff contender in modern-day MLB. Lack of power and scoring runs will be their downfall – too much pressure on starting pitching and bullpen. Which is exactly why I refuse to buy in

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