OTC: Royals’ Talk Is Cheap / KU Hoops B12’s Best Again? / Les Mis & Otto: Not To Be Missed

“It just doesn’t add up. It’s just not honest.”
Soren Petro, disputing David Glass’ statement that the Royals have done no better than break even financially since they have owned the franchise, 810 AM
GH: There are few things that interest me less in the winter months than Royals’ talk – but our local radio stations appear to be obsessed with David Glass and his Wal-Mart ways. Maybe the last 25 years of losing have beaten me down to the point of not really caring what happens in the off-season. Seven months of losing baseball is more than I need to satiate my seamheadedness. For those of you who are not of my thinking….read on.

“The Royals are flat-out lying to you! They are lying to you when they tell you they are trying to put a quality competitive team on the field.”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM
GH: Bob Dutton, who does a quality job in covering the Royals for the Kansas City Star, has sent the local baseball nerds into a tizzy with his tweets on the confusing plans for the Royals’ payroll in 2013. Will it be $70 million? Will that $70 million include the entire 40-man roster and adding to son Dan’s beanie cap collection? Who the hell knows? Better yet, who the hell cares? Come spring, we’ll all be thinking positive thoughts and hoping the warm air and green grass will nurture a miracle season for our Royals. It is simply what baseball fans do.

“David Glass made his money for a company that pays as little for labor as it possibly can and is proud of doing so. Good luck, Royals fans.”
Joe Sheehan, @joe_sheehan, of SI and Baseball Prospectus, Twitter

“We’re now at a point in time where we have good young players — as good as any team in baseball. Now, we’ve got to do what we can to support them. Do we trade one of them? I don’t know. I’m not trying to.”
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Star
GH: Glass catches a ton of well-deserved heat from the local media for being cheap. But Moore, like Allard Baird before him, skates on the edge of criticism because many believe his hands are tied with Glass shackles. But if he’s not trying to trade some of the Royals’ young talent for starting pitching, what the hell is he doing? It is really all he should be focused on from now until he’s fired.

“I’d like to use our farm system in a way to support our major-league club now that we have good, young players who are all under control. Now, it’s time to do everything we can to begin to move forward.”
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Star
GH: Moore used the phrase, “everything we can to begin to move forward.” Nate Bukaty hinted on his Friday show that Moore may be leaking skimpy payroll info to Dutton that belies his public positive comments about Glass. I don’t think these guys are organized enough to stage that sophisticated of a ruse. The conflicting reports we hear from the Royals camp is just SOP for that bunch.

“The truth of the matter is if we add another pitcher … there wouldn’t be room to add that individual unless we got rid of somebody else.”
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Star
GH: This comment is in direct conflict with Moore’s, “everything we can to begin to move forward,” comment. In other words – it’s the Royals, stupid!

“The Royals are very good at this time of year of convincing us they’re close.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: This year they appear to be more intent on convincing us they’re cheap, lack all PR skills and are trying to set a franchise fan record for most negative tweets. #Royals

“Don’t you think the Royals are trying harder than the Chiefs right now? At least they’re shopping players.”
Jake Gutiérrez, to Steven St. John, who did not agree with Jake’s take, 810 AM

“[The Royals] can afford to add $20- to $25-million to the payroll. Until they do that, they are not trying that hard. And I’m just talking about being the best team in their division – and they’re not even close!”
Steven St. John, 810 AM
GH: Everyone – and I mean EVERYONE – who comments on the Royals equates trying and winning with spending money. Yes, that is one way to do it. Obviously, it’s not the Royals’ way. How about trying scouting, coaching and managing? Ever heard of that one, Stan?

“I always liked playing Kansas [when I was playing at Oklahoma State] because I got a chance to guard Tad [Boyle] who was as slow as I was. You can ask Tad, I wouldn’t have recruited him and he wouldn’t have recruited me.”
Bill Self, Hawk Talk, on meeting the former Jayhawk and his Buffaloes in Lawrence Saturday afternoon, 610 AM

“The only bad thing about the basketball game Kansas plays against Colorado is it was not chosen for Kansas City. Neat way to tweak Missouri fans — play a game in that state against another old league rival wearing black and gold.”
Kevin Haskin, columnist, on KU agreeing to play a home and away series with the former Big 12 Buffs, Topeka Capital Journal
GH: Even the media in Kansas still has their eyes fixed east toward Missouri and those hated Tigers. Mizzou is thinking of KU, too. Read on.

“We have a high level of respect for Kansas. We hope to be able to renew that rivalry. We just hope at some time our counterparts at KU want to play.”
Mike Alden, 610 AM
GH: I know this riles up the KU crowd each time the subject is broached – but when one school wants to play and the other does not…it does not look good for the school who refuses to enter the ring.

“I would say this to my beloved alma mater – it’s time [to renew the rivalry with Mizzou]. Let’s go.”
Bob Fescoe, a Kansas alum, 610 AM

“[Kansas] is almost certainly in my mind going to win the league again. They’ll probably earn a two-seed and be one of the top eight teams. I’m kind of going on record now that we’re going to be wrong on [our preseason ranking of KU] at 12. They’ve be closer to seven or eight. … I don’t think there is anybody out there [in the Big 12] that can hang with [Kansas] over an 18-game schedule.””
Mike DeCourcy, 810 AM
GH: It is too early to cross off K-State, OU, OSU and even Iowa State and TT. But Texas looks awful, and we know TCU is a joke. Huggins’ squad in Morgantown has been beaten three times already. Baylor is Baylor – pretty on the outside and rotten on the inside. It looks like KU will have to forfeit some games to not win their ninth Big 12 crown in a row.

“The add-on they’re talking about to Allen Fieldhouse would be in the upper teens of millions. It would be one of the biggest tourist attractions in the state of Kansas. It would rival any Hall of Fame in America. We’re pretty excited about it.”
Bill Self, on the new structure that would house Naismith’s original rules of basketball, Hawk Talk, 610 AM
GH: Allen Fieldhouse might be the least impressive building on the outside with the most impressive inside – especially on game day. If the new addition to the old barn is anywhere near as fan-friendly as the rest of the place, hoop fans are going to love it.

“I couldn’t be more pleased with where Ben [McLemore] is. I can’t imagine there’s a biggest sponge out there in America.”
Bill Self, on his very impressive redshirt freshman, Hawk Talk, 610 AM
GH: Self treats all of his players differently – and in my mind a good coach understands that is necessary to get the most out of an athlete. Self treats McLemore like he’s a returning alum who stopped in to play some ball with the youngsters. He has a lot of respect for McLemore’s game – and after the first month of the season, I think we all know why.

“I’m not canceling Missouri’s season because they don’t have Mike Dixon. But I think while he doesn’t play, they’re going to struggle.”
Doug Gottlieb, 810 AM
GH: So far – Gottlieb’s dead on. Read on.

“Mike Dixon’s departure has little sway over AP voters. #Mizzou rises four spots to No. 12 in this week’s Top 25 poll. Indiana-Duke still 1-2.”
Steve Walentik, @Steve_Walentik, Twitter
GH: The Tigers have some very nice pieces but they look like a team that is still trying to get to know each other. That’s kind of what the non-con is for. Laurence Bowers looks all healed up and good as new. The Tigers will need him and Pressey to make a run at the SEC title – which Kentucky looks more than ready to vacate. But that Florida team looks damn good.

“What’s Les Miserable about?”
Kevin Kietzman, while talking to Danny Clinkscale about the touring Broadway musical now showing at Kansas City’s Music Hall, 810 AM
GH: I know I am not your average sports guy. At the risk of staining my man card, I confess to having seen at Les Mis on stage at least seven or eight times since I first saw it on Broadway in 1988. I will likely be there at the cinema when the movie version opens Christmas Day. I attended Thursday night’s performance at the Music Hall by myself. My wife enjoys the theatre but not like me. If you are not a musical kind of person, I understand why you would not go. But if your heart beats at all at the sound of an orchestra , the swell of a baritone, the wisp of a beautifully tuned falsetto and the sight of staging from artistic geniuses – go. Watch. Listen. Enjoy.

“She’s more of a sandwich maker. I’d much rather come home to a cold meal and a hot wife, rather than a hot meal and a cold wife – every damn time.”
Otto Kilcher, discussing the culinary skills of his bride, Alaska: The Last Frontier, Discovery Channel
GH: I stumbled across this show that’s in its second season on the Discovery Channel just this week. What an amazing, thrilling, simple life these people lead out in the huge and untamed Alaska wilderness. Otto is simply a genius problem solver with a craftsman skill set that is too quickly disappearing from our country. Read on.

“[My grandfather] told me to marry a big woman. She’ll keep you warm in the winter and give you shade in the summer.”
Eivan Kilcher, Otto’s son, who did not take his grandfather’s advice, Alaska: The Last Frontier, Discovery Channel
GH: Three generations of the Kilcher clan have homesteaded 638 acres in Alaska since the 1930s. Otto’s dad migrated from Germany to flea Hitler’s oncoming reign of terror. I possess none of the brilliance, moxie and toughness of these folks. They make me proud to be a part of their species. There is a marathon showing of the series on Saturday starting at 6:00 PM. Set your DVR and let me know if you are as impressed with the Kilcher clan as I.

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33 Responses to OTC: Royals’ Talk Is Cheap / KU Hoops B12’s Best Again? / Les Mis & Otto: Not To Be Missed

  1. donkeypunch says:

    GH sed:
    I attended Thursday night’s performance at the Music Hall by myself.

    donkeypunch sez:
    ummmmm, this might merit an unfollow on my part. Were you at all worried that the other patrons might be looking and you and immediately think, “Who’s the creepy dude by himself……hide the children”

    • Greg Hall says:

      donk, I sat amongst a cackle of matronly ladies who all smelled strongly of a perfume I faintly recall from my senior year in HS. It has aged about as well as they. BTW, they loved that I knew just about everything there is to know about Les Mis. It was so unlike my OTC forum skirmishes.

  2. Jim says:

    Hall, we can agree on one thing. If you have seen Les Mis 6 or 7 times, you have NO business in the Alaskan wilderness. haha Just busting your balls, GH!

  3. Gavin says:

    “. . .when one school wants to play and the other does not…it does not look good for the school who refuses to enter the ring.”

    I think I see what’s going on here, Greg. You, and presumably some Mizzou fans, think anyone at KU cares what you think looks good.

  4. The Smartman says:

    Tommy Flanagan needs to come to town and induct the Royals into the Pathological Liars Club.

    Forget Alaska the Last Frontier. Moonshiner’s is the REAL MAN SHOW. BTW moon-shining is legal in Missouri. You can make up to 100 gallons for personal consumption, gifting, but not for sale. My winter project with a buddy is building a still. New Years Day is the target for the first batch.

    The number 1 tourist attraction in the state of Kansas, is, and will always be, a furniture store named after another state.

    Dittos on Les Miz! Seen it too many times to recall. Know all the lyrics. Will be at the theater on Christmas Day with a box of tissue looking forward to a good cry…….again.

    • Orphan of the Road says:

      The Liar’s Hall of Fame is in Dannebrog, NE. Fortunately for Glass & the Royals, professional liars are not allowed induction.

      I worked with a black man who had made and run ‘shine in Virginia in the 40s. He said they would add burnt coffee to make it taste more like whiskey and iodine to make it taste more like scotch.

      • The Smartman says:

        With our first batch We are shooting for what’s called Apple Pie. It’s a legal shine that you can buy at some liquor stores in the Northland, in mason jars. Damn if it does not taste just like apple pie. It kicks your nuts straight up into the roof of your mouth. Hangover not very pleasant either.

    • Greg Hall says:

      sm, Word is that Anne Hathaway absolutely kills it in her role as Fantine. “I dreamed a dream of days gone by…”

  5. Jim says:

    Yo Smartman, I hope you can type without looking at the keyboard because you might be going blind soon! Kepp me posted on how the hooch comes out. I’m curious as hell!

  6. Ptolemy says:

    Les Miz?!?

    When did you undergo the sex change?

  7. b12 says:

    Regarding the Royals…all I can do is look east, to the Cardinals. They have a lot more history, championships, etc…but given the opportunity, Royals fans will come close, if not equaling the Cardinals fans in attendance, merchandise, and radio and TV listenership/viewership.

    Bill DeWitt lives in Cincinnati. Not St. Louis. However, he plunges forward with what it takes to put a winner on the field. Payroll concerns…sure. I don’t see anything in the Post Dispatch about whether he is breaking even or making money, etc..

    Comments from DeWitt focus on the team. Not running a business.

    The Royals are not in that much of a smaller market than St. Louis…and God forbid Kansas City is in an actual division race…Kauffman would be close to sold out every game. It happened 30-35 years ago. Kansas City and the MIdwest are just aching for it t

    My point is, David Glass…shut the hell up about payroll…breaking even…making money…and put a winner on the field.

    YOU WILL SEE A PROFIT! Just do it!

  8. john doe says:

    Good to see a KU columnist still talking about the school that “never really mattered”

  9. Uncle Dick says:

    Greg, you need to stay home and lay Miz. Step away from the loafers. Alaska? You better go to Zona and have a latte. You won’t even get out of your car in Arkansas.

    I know a black-Japanese guy that makes shine. Every December 7th, he bombs Pearl Bailey.

  10. harley says:

    Sorry greg…as an avid missouri fan i can tell you we don’t really care about playing kansas. We kicked them in the money sport of football. KU is the worst team in the football college world. That’s a sure win for Missouri but it means nothing. To play them in basketball would be fun to watch but truth is we’ve moved beyond them and look forward to the sec league and other teams.
    You continue to drag this topic up and for most MU fans its a non issue. It’s dead. Get over it. Missouri fans in reality have moved on to greener pastures.
    We’ve become a part of the most successful athletic conference in the nation. We’re getting settled in to
    compete with the major powers in the sec. That’s enough to keep the coaches/players busy. The university is expanding and huge capital improvements worth half a billion dollars are on tap. The university is about to announce another major project that will blow away even the top midwest schools. So greg…the mu tigers are looking forward. Playing ku is not on our radar. We’ve effectively moved on to the bright lights of a major
    transition. And the fan base is growing rapidly nationally so as to be one of the largest university fan bases in the nation. No greg…we’re not interested in your cointuous coverage of baiting. It’s old and tired. Please focus on the positive steps being taken in columbia instead of
    harping on the stale subject. Thanks for your time.

    • Steve says:

      As a Mizzou fan, I couldn’t disagree with you more. It’s always laughable to me when people from either school say they have “moved on.” Gimme a break. The day they start playing again – if they do – you, along with every other fan like you, will have that game circled on your calendar, especially if MU basketball continues its success and KU football can turn things around. Save your preaching.

  11. Ron says:

    Looking at the other side of the figures for a moment, where in the world does MLB get $93 milion a year to give to the Royals? . There are 15-20 small market teams. Do they all get this much and more? Soren likes to talk about Jersey sales. How many people are there in the world who pay $200 for an official MLB jersey? Not $One Billion+ worth of people, I doubt.

    Glass paid $90 million + for the Royals because absolutely no one else of any stature wanted to buy the team and keep it in KC. The only way the Royals are worth $300 million is if someone buys them and moves them somewhere else. Otherwise, they are worth $90 million, maybe.

    Baseball tickets are cheap. Selling 10,000 more tickets a game would not generate that much additional revenue.

    As far as I know, there are no owners in baseball any longer who make their living owning a MLB team. There’s a reason for that…they aren’t that profitable

  12. MightyMo says:

    Greg, I purchased a hard back translation of Les Mis this week. I know next to nothing about it (other than the social justice angle), other than I have read other epic adventures by Hugo and Dumas. Interestingly, my attraction to it comes via Susan Boyle. Her first appearance on Britain’s Got Talent (where she sings I Dreamed a Dream) is a “must see” for anyone who has ever judged a book by its cover, gained cynicism thru age, or otherwise rooted against another person based on their different appearance. It was and is an inspiration each time I see it. Address below for anyone who wants to see it.


  13. John Phog says:

    so you are ready to write off Baylor but not the horrible Texas Tech?

    Bob Fescoe has the attention span of an insect. Time to renew the “rivalry”, it’s been 9 whole months already.

  14. Steve C says:

    Selling 10,000 more tickets a game would not generate that much additional revenue? That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read here. If the average person spent $20, which is WAY low when you include tickets, parking, food & drink, etc, that would be $16.2 million per year.

  15. Draft a QB. says:

    What’s going to be in that Kansas hall of Fame? The worlds 2nd largest ball of twine? That’s the best tourist attraction in Kansas.

  16. Thanks for the heads up on Alaska The Last Frontier. I’ve liked what I’ve seen so far. Can’t wait to see what the hell these people do for eight months once the winter hits.

    • GaryB says:

      I’ve watched that show (Alaska: The Last Frontier, several times and it is quite amazing. Did you know that the pop singer (dating myself) Jewell, is the daughter of Atz Kilcher, Otto’s brother? You can find Youtube footage of Jewell and Atz yodeling together.

      • Greg Hall says:

        I had no idea about the Jewel connection to the Kilcher clan until your post. Last night I watched an episode where Otto referred to the lyrics of one of Jewel’s song — kind of cool to have read your comment just days before.

        • I like “Alaska,” but in the process of watching it was turned on to my new Official Favorite Show — “Amish Mafia.” And if Discovery ever thinks to spin-off a new program pitting “The Kilchers vs. Levi’s Crew,” they’re REALLY gonna have a hit on their hands (!).

  17. I had been strongly suspecting the same, only for you to officially confirm it, Gary. Thanks for Sharing. (If possible, I will send Bubs from The Wire your way tomorrow — can you spot him a couple ‘a AJ notes?)?.

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