OTC: Will A&M & Mizzou Be A Mule In The SEC’s Derby? Plus More Friday Odds & Ends

“You know it’s hard to take that mule to the Kentucky Derby.”
Jackie Sherrill, former Texas A&M football coach, when asked what he thought of the Aggies move to the SEC, Sirius Radio
GH: I cannot wait for the Aggie fans’ reaction to the old ball coach comparing their boys to a mule in the Derby.

“I grew up a Notre Dame fan. I went to Notre Dame. Notre Dame fans want to remain independent with every fiber of their being. They’ll be independent in 2014. I am positive of that. Notre Dame sees the nation as their conference.”
Tim O’Malley, publisher of IrishEyes.com

“The Big 12′s obsession with Notre Dame is stalkerish.”
Dan Wolken, @DanWolken, of The Daily, Twitter
GH: Is Wolken’s prejudice against the Big 12 showing? No conference has stalked the Irish with more gusto than the Big 10. And why wouldn’t the Big 12, the Big 10 and every other conference court the most lucrative independent football program in the history of college sports?

“Flat out that is dumb! There is no other way to put it. That is dumb.”
Carrington Harrison, on the Big 12’s announcement that they are content to stay with ten teams and no divisions, 610 AM

“Miami & KU games are $85 for [K-State’s home football games] premium bench and $75 for bench tickets. Please note bench tickets do not mean for benches on the sideline.”
D. Scott Fritchen, @DScottFritchen, Twitter
GH: $85 to see K-State vs. Kansas? Is this a great country or what?

“Kansas on Oct 6. $85 or $75. Word to the Weis: Bill Snyder teams have outscored KU 292-99 all-time in 10 meetings in Manhattan.”
D. Scott Fritchen, @DScottFritchen, Twitter
GH: Anyone who thinks Bill Snyder is a kindly grandfather type has never witnessed his team’s annual evisceration of the Jayhawks. Charlie Weis’ comments during his initial press conference about the Jayhawks being KANSAS UNIVERSITY and his insinuation that the little school down the road with the “State” tag was inferior might come back to haunt him and his troops in Manhattan this fall. And you can watch it in person for $75.

“Let me make a statement you can quote me on. Bill Self is the best coach on the planet. I’m serious. I would run out of adjectives trying to describe the job that I think Bill Self does coaching. I’m absolutely blown away with the job Bill Self did this year. And I watched Duke and I watched North Carolina and I watched Kentucky. Nobody got close to the job he did.”
Reid Gettys, college basketball analyst, when asked by Sean Keeler if Self would make a good coach for a future USA Olympic team, Foxsports.com

“I had serious doubts prior to this season whether [Thomas] Robinson could make all of the adjustments he needed to this season, including playing a lot more minutes and becoming a primary post scoring option. I was wrong. Anything that Robinson needed to do this year, he did. He is a top-level athlete who is now really just developing as a basketball ‘player.’ ”
Ed Isaacson, NBA Draft Blog analyst, Sporting News
GH: Isaacson believes Robinson can develop into a scoring threat in the NBA and a star. It will be fun to watch his progress next season wherever he lands.

“I don’t think a lot of [college] teams around here are going to [sell beer at games] because it sends the wrong message to students.”
Todd Leabo, on West Virginia being the only member of the Big 12 that sells beer at games, 810 AM
GH: I applaud the Mountaineers for not pretending to be on some moral high ground. Kansas has incarcerated members of their staff for ticket fraud, K-State suffered through the financial scandal of private contracts and Mizzou had the Quin Snyder years. Could selling beer at a ball game really be all that bad?

“I think [Cleveland’s Chris Perez] is in their heads. This is the kind of thing he does to get in their heads and it works to his advantage. They get overanxious and they try to do too much.”
Mike Boddicker, on the Cleveland closer goading the Royals with his words and antics, 810 AM

“If that kind of stuff [with Perez] would have gone on when Hal McRae played, you can be sure somebody would have gone into second base with their spikes up and telling them to tell their pitcher to knock it off.”
Joel Goldberg, on Perez embarrassing the Royals with his antics, 810 AM
GH: Instead of spiking the opposing shortstop, how about beating Perez in the batter’s box? Is there a more delicate athlete than the baseball player? What other sport becomes so annoyed by their opponents’ celebrations that they attempt to throw at them or spike them? Quit the whining and go beat somebody.

“If Dayton Moore calls Milwaukee and says, ‘I want Zach Greinke,’ and they say they want Wil Myers, I make that deal in a heartbeat!’
Bob Fescoe, 610 AM
GH: Just reason number 8,456 to tune into Fescoe for a chuckle.

“There’s so much insecurity about his shoulder. He’s a time bomb.”
Jason Stark, on the Royals’ starting pitcher, Felipe Paulino, 810 AM

“If it was me, I’d try and get [Felipe Paulino’s] stock and then get rid of him before his shoulder blows. He’s a max effort guy. If you’re not a max-effort guy, you can pitch for 10 or 15 years. I think he’s going to blow. All I can tell you is what I see and what I see is if you’re a max-effort guy, you’re going to be on the DL for a long period of time. He’s a max-effort guy.”
Mike Boddicker, on the Royals’ pitcher, 810 AM

“If [the Royals] can get a premium arm than they go [trade Paulino], otherwise you just ride him into the ground and hope that shoulder holds up.”
Soren Petro, 810 AM

“[The Giants] stole Melky Cabrera for a guy that Buster Olney told us the Giants were getting ready to release.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM
GH: SSJ added his own nickname to the former Giants’ pitcher. He referred to him as “a steaming pile of crap.”

“The number one thing I hear is, ‘We miss you on TV.’ ”
Frank White, on what the former Royals’ TV broadcaster hears from the public, 810 AM
GH: I don’t miss Frank on the Royals’ broadcasts and I really don’t enjoy Rex Hudler’s simpleton act. The truth is we don’t have anyone calling Royals’ baseball that is worth missing. The Royals’ have made sure we get ordinary work and forced us to like it.

“I’m going to guess that when the folks over at Arrowhead get ahold of this it’s not going to be free. Because nothing is free, right?”
Jared Carter, on the announcement that the NFL will be providing Wi-Fi at all stadiums, 610 AM
GH: How much will four hours of Wi-Fi cost at a Chiefs’ game? My first guess is $20. And that might be low.

“It’s been my experience at Chiefs’ games that the people who look like they can least afford tickets are the ones with tickets.”
Scott Parks, 980 AM
GH: Has Parks been sitting next to Belly Boy at Arrowhead? 

“I don’t know why you would Wi-Fi at an NFL stadium. Because when I go to an NFL game I go with these things called ‘friends.’ I don’t need to be looking at my phone all the time. I talk to my friends.”
Jared Carter, on his lack of interest in Arrowhead getting Wi-Fi, 610 AM
GH: I am a Wi-Fi junkie. I plan where I am going to eat lunch according to what restaurants have Wi-Fi. Having wireless access at NFL stadiums will enhance the game-day experience and maybe slow the attendance bleeding the NFL is experiencing due to fantasy football fans staying home. 

“The guy picking on the kid in the Foundation for a Better Life commercial is wearing an Adrian Murrell AZ Cardinals jersey. Who’s the nerd?”
Soren Petro, @theprogramkc, Twitter
GH: The guy who recognizes the Adrian Murrell jersey. 

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44 Responses to OTC: Will A&M & Mizzou Be A Mule In The SEC’s Derby? Plus More Friday Odds & Ends

  1. john doe says:

    Bill Self does a great job coaching a 7 foot Arizona transfer, a lottery pick and another first round draft pick.

    Spare me

    • Gavin says:

      Yes. Absolutely. Actually coaching those players, guys who didn’t even make the McDonald’s All-America team, into, you know, BEING first round NBA draft picks means nothing.

      • Jim says:

        Save your breath, Gavin. JD is one of those dillusional MU fans that pisses all over any KU, regardless of how ridiculous and myopic his comments are.

        • MUC says:

          I used to hate ku but one thing I have never said is that the basketball coaches were not some of the best. Roy was damn good there and so is Self. I hated their teams but you can not say that those guys were not some of the best coaches in the game.

          • Jim says:

            Don’t forget about Larry Brown before that, MUC. They have had an amazing run of luck with quality coaches. Just takes one “oops” on a hire and your program can go right down the shitter.

          • Gavin says:

            I agree that we’ve had an incredible run of good luck. The luckiest of the bunch has to have been Roy. I mean, yes, he turned out to be great but I don’t think anyone other than Bob Frederick had any confidence that North Carolina’s “second” assistant would turn out as well as he did.

          • Cliffy says:

            Considering that everything the kU athletic department touched has turned to shit in recent years, yes, it’s amazing that the basketball program has remained on track. There’s no denying that Self is, indeed, a great coach.

          • Gavin says:

            One of the things I most enjoyed KU “touch[ing] and turn[ing] to shit in recent years” was Mizzou’s shot at a BCS bowl.

          • Cliffy says:

            Glad you enjoyed it, Gavin. Even in your school’s best year ever you lost to Mizzou and finished behind them in the polls. Congrats.

          • Gavin says:

            And despite all of that, the Orange Bowl wanted KU more than it wanted Mizzou. I can live with that knowledge, even despite the loss.

          • Gavin says:

            I gotta tell you, Cliffy, I like the back-and-forth banter. It’s fun and you do it well. I’m gonna miss this and really wish you guys hadn’t walked away from the Border War like you did.

          • SquirrelMan says:

            kU would have walked away if they had any options. But they don’t, so they are left to suck on Bevo’s tit.

          • Cliffy says:

            I gotta tell you, Gavin, I like the back-and-forth banter. It’s fun and you do it well. I’m gonna miss this and really wish you guys hadn’t walked away from the Border War like you did.

      • john doe says:

        so players arent very good unless they are McDonalds All Americans?

        Maybe KU fans feel that way, but it’s not reality

        Cant wait until next year when we get to hear about how Self turned the national high school player of the year into a good player his freshman year.

        • Juan De Guzman says:

          in a typical MU fan display of anti-logic you have managed to turn this issue inside out.

          the question is not whether only McDonalds all-Americans can be good players. Certainly there are players who don’t make the burger team that develop into top college and even NBA players. But the point being made is that there is some coaching involved in taking these lesser ranked players coming out of high school and turning them into lottery picks. This is something Self has done with Robinson, the Morris twins, Cole Aldrich. Hell, even Darnell Jackson is in the NBA. Sasha Kaun is making millions playing in Russia. Who thought those guys would have pro careers coming out of High School? Did you see Withey play before this season? Did he look like a future NBA player?

          Watch the draft later this month. Take note of the first 5 or 6 players drafted. Which ones were McD’s can’t miss one and dones and which ones were not? The odds are pretty good that Robinson will be the only one taken that high who wasn’t a burger boy. So does that make Self just another coach because he had a strong team featuring a lottery pick, or does it make Self an exceptional coach because he took a kid who wasn’t one of the top players in his class and turned him into a lottery pick? Or is this still too confusing for you?

          • stephenelliott311@gmail.com says:

            What lesser ranked players are you referring to that makes Self such an extreme developer of talent?

            I agree Self is a great coach, one of the better coaches in the country but to act like he takes “lesser” players and turns them into all stars is ridiculous and bordering on asinine.

            All these players you just mentioned were all projected to go pro in high school, all were 4 stars and ranked in or near top 30 in class and all of them in top 10 at position. So lets not act like Self takes these players that aren’t going anywhere and turns them into NBA players. No matter where these players would’ve gone they would be playing in the league.

          • John doe says:

            Thomas Robinson – 4 star #10 PF
            Elijah Johnson – 5 star #4 SG
            Jeff Withey – 4 star #8 C
            Tyshawn Taylor – 4 star, #11 PG
            Travis Releford – 4 star #15 SG

            Which of these players was not at the top of his class?

            Amazing Self could do so much with so little.

            Not saying he is a bad coach. Just saying he gets great high school players, hamburgers or not.

    • john doe says:

      So what you guys took from that is that I said Bill Self was a bad coach?

      Interesting. I wasn’t aware I was saying that, but whatever. Unless somebody says Bill Self is the greatest, KU fans think the assumption is that he sucks.

      It’s a lot easier to coach great talent than it is to coach shit. Withey. Lottery pick in 2013. Elijah Johnson – drafted in 2013. Thomas Robinson – lottery pick 2012. Tyshawn Taylor – 1st round pick 2012.

      What other Big 12 team can say that? None.

      Self has it easy. He gets almost any player he wants.

    • Mikey V says:

      You won’t be spared if you playing against him. Sorry.

    • bob says:

      Bill Self is not only the best coach in college but one of the really
      good guys. Don’t take anything away from him. He’s outstanding
      beyond probably any other coach in america. He can take players
      and make them great. I’m going to be interested in the fact taht
      manning left and how well the team can take big men and make
      them nba lottery picks.
      SEC: We see the sec is starting to jump away from the pack.
      Spurrier is talking about paying players which is a great great
      idea. Now the sec is one of the first leagues to intensively study
      concussions. The SEC continues to make a move to do the things
      that other leagues can’t do. They have huge cash flow and the
      ability to get things done.
      FRANK WHITE: always a royal. He’ll probably endup
      managing a major league team someday to a world series.
      Too bad moore and glass let another great talent get away.

  2. red says:

    Applaud the mountaineers all you want, but you would not want to go to a game there. They make Eagles fans look classy.

    • P says:

      I never got a chance to make it out there before they quit sellin’ but I heard Folsom field was a battle zone of piss filled water balloons, keyed cars from out of state, broken windshields and fist fights before they finally stopped selling Coors.

      • @aleitel says:

        that must have been back when CU fans actually went to games. times have certainly changed.

  3. Gavin says:

    I don’t think that KU, K-State and MU not serving alcohol has anything to do with any moral high ground. It’s got more to do with the risk of getting sued for overserving or serving a minor. WVU as decided that the risk of a lawsuit is both manageable and woth the money they make. The other schools used a different calculus. My guess is that when (not if) WVU gets sued and has to pay a large judgment, t hey will stop serving alcohol.

    • Smartman says:

      Have you or a loved one been injured as a result of alcohol being served at a college football game. If so you may be entitled to compensation. Call 800-SUE-UNOW and speak with one of the attorneys at Livin, Large, Fromm,
      Soo-Eng. The first ten callers get a free copy of the best selling book Better Living Through Litigation.

    • P says:

      man, could you imagine some of the trainwrecks at college football stadiums if they served alcohol. I’m quite certain if they did that during my days in Lincoln or shortly after graduation I would’ve spent many nights in jail or detox. At this point the admin up there should consider it because the blue hairs have turned Memorial into a phockin funeral home.

  4. DonADAMSStJO says:

    Greg, what did you think about Frank White selling cars and roofs. Whats up with that???

  5. Smartman says:

    Again Mr. and Mrs. Fescoe, my condolences about little Bobby.

    Bill Snyder will wipe fat boys ass with some 20 grit sand paper. The only thing afraid of Charlie Weiss these days is a toilet seat. Put some more gravy on your gravy you fat fuck!

    It is truly sad that Frank White is selling roofies from a Cadillac. Learn to save and pay yourself first boys and girls. Nothing worse than a black man singing the blues out of tune.

    Just when you think the Royals can’t get any more pathetic, they do. They need to have a little clitoris patch on their uniforms. Hey Toby Cook, how about vagina day at the K. All pussies get in free.

  6. Kyle Rohde says:

    Wi-Fi is fantastic at sporting events because regular cell coverage does not work, and it’s great to be able to see what writers/analysts are saying about the game on Twitter, since your only other options are the Chiefs broadcast network or the in-stadium PA.

    LIVESTRONG Sporting Park does the Wi-Fi experience as good or better then any stadium in the country. The Chiefs people in charge of implementation need to go to a couple games out there and see how to do it right.

    • Smartman says:

      Nothing like letting your kid watch some perv watch pornhub.com on his tablet during a lull in the action.

      • Gavin says:

        At least the little brat will leave me alone while I’m trying to watch the game.

      • JP says:

        All I know is if I’m paying over $100 to attend a football game, I plan on watching the game, not checking emails or fantasy stats. The Chiefs and Arrowheadhave done a better job of putting stats up on their jumbo tron along with scores and highlights.

        • Gavin says:

          I see what you mean JP. I doubt I’d pay for WiFi or use it all that frequently, but I am pretty sure I’d bring my iPad and check stuff during timeouts and halftime.

    • Blackjack says:

      First of all, fantasy football is for losers who live in their mother’s basement. Second of all, KU vs. K-State football holds zero appeal. I would glady watch 10 Sporting KC games before I watched a meaningless college football game between Big 12 middling and lower class teams.

    • Mike says:

      Exactly. And anyone who was at a game at Arrowhead last year, did anyone happen to see that big-ass portable cell tower that was parked in a red-zone parking lot the whole season??! It’s because the bandwidth used just at Arrowhead was creating a whole host of issues, and they needed portable towers just to relieve cell/data congestion.
      And because of Jared Carter’s complete naivete, I now know why Nick busted his balls all the time. Beginning with:
      -Charging for WiFi? How in the hell are you going to do that, sell a passcode for someone with a mobile device to access wifi? I see that succeeding, until everyone shares the SAME FREAKING PASSCODE WITH EACH OTHER!!
      -And the ribbon board may do a little better in displaying some stats, but make no mistake, that ribbon board is there, not for fan digestion of stats, but for the Chiefs to plaster sponsors on it during the game, on the whole length of the ribbon board, so they can make $$. There is no comprehensive stat tracker on any video/ribbon board at Arrowhead. If you want to track all stats, bring your iPhone/iPad/whatever you have, because you ain’t getting it from the Chiefs, unless a :20 video board shot of team stats at halftime counts.

      Wifi is the future of the fan experience at stadiums. Any team that takes Jared Carter’s advice will hemorrhage fans that actually show up to games.
      I find it shocking that a radio person isn’t adapting to, and embracing new technologies. Just shocked. Good thing not all radio people are that intractable in their own personal/professional tech evolution.

  7. Merle Tagladucci says:

    Is there a more delicate athlete than the baseball player? What other sport becomes so annoyed by their opponents’ celebrations that they attempt to throw at them or spike them? Quit the whining and go beat somebody.

    I don’t see it as delicate at all. Quite the contrary. Baseball players police themselves when somebody crosses the line. So do players in other sports. Why would you NOT want to see a hotdogging asshole get beaned in retaliation? Are you kidding? Bring that stuff on.

    • Bob Loblaw says:

      Yeah, wasn’t quite sure what Greg was saying either with this. It seemed to contradict what he was trying to say.

    • Big Dub says:

      Agreed. Baseball is one of the few sports where the retaliation is almost always out in the open. It happens in every other sport, without a ton of fanfare. People have already forgotten about Pittman’s elbow to the throat last series, and that was most definitely a you hit mine, I hit yours scenario. Football players get the next play to lay the smack on the guy who is out of line, same with soccer players.

      In baseball, it’s almost always man on man, with the camera in focus. There’s no crowd to hide behind, and it’s there for everyone to see. Getting a hit off of Perez doesn’t shut him up, but a fastball in the ribs, and cleats up will.

  8. I LIKE LEABO says:

    810 needs to stop with the on air commercials during the time their supposed to be talking sports. Frank Whites Cadillac and the freebies Danny Clinksdale gets at the gaslight grill piss me off.
    It’s one thing to have commercials, and 810 has a million of em, but to do them in the middle of a sports segment is maddening.
    I have a buddy who owns a restaurant and had 810 come do a remote for lunch. The cost was $3000!!!!!!! $3 K!!! Unbelievable.

    • The Word says:

      Thanks Danny Parkins.

    • Harry Balczak says:

      810 IS commercials who are you kidding,,every now and then they talk a little sports between the incessant commercials, that they come back from to do live commercials then tell you about the remote they are at and then by the way next segment we will talk about the Royals and now for some commercials after we do 5 minutes plugging the business we are at today.

  9. bob says:

    I watched the royals the other night on tv. First time I’ve watched this year.
    The announcers are without a doubt the worst ones I’ve ever heard.
    They are boring and lack any energy in their presentations. Who hired this
    worthless bunch of announcers. Moore should be fired. Those guys are
    horrible.